Poachers

Jim Wallace

Smells like low tide.
#16
I took an "Eyes In The Woods" course several years ago. It helped me to realize that my observation skills and memory for details needed a lot of work. You can improve these skills with practice, and also write stuff down immediately before you forget, like boat registration #s and license plate #s, vehicle descriptions, clothing, hats, type and brand of fishing gear, approx height, weight, age, hair color, and "body type" of the perps, etc.
If you can do it without being noticed, take photos.
 

10incher

Active Member
#17
Maybe you should test out your unlock vehicle theory on them. Just give them a 6- pack.
You're funny. I'll taser you last.

Just trying to fish. Can't fish watching the car because of meth heads. Can't fish if there's no fish to catch because of poachers.

Doughnuts were mentioned in my other thread. Maybe if we had a doughnut scent spray we could just hose down meth heads and poachers when we run across them. Making it much easier for cops to find them. Cops can smell doughnuts for miles.
 
#18
Poaching is a very large issue here in the red neck (Okanogan) valley. Just happened to watch a some show called hillybilly something or other which takes place in the hills of NC. Normally I would glide by this station but happen to see a great looking stream and the moonshine boys "stocking up" on all the trout they could muster. They could not understand why some years they just couldn't even get a bite!

The sad news is we are spread extremely thin on law enforcement so the "report a poacher" thing is probably not very effective. I have a good friend who is the chief of police in nearby Tonasket who tells me he can intervene "at times" with the correct and timely info.

I do like the advice given on diseased fish, which is quite often true. The long hot summers of central WA do make for some bad tasting fish I am told by the local meat fisherman.

Normally I get, "what the fk you gonna do about it" when I politely mention the rules. Used to get pissed and go for oar wars but age an arthritis no send me to the shore to copy down their license. You have to understand that this area of the state has its share of "self taught bajo players" who are capable of inflicting vendettas.
 
#20
Most fly fishermen have the smarts to recognize honest mistakes and gray area in the rules without doing harm. A barb on a fly is an honest mistake. I've done it. I've even thought about it as a fly was in play and completed the cast, swing or drift anyway. When I reel back in I DO pinch. But I'll admit something a bit worse. I don't EVER buy barbless hooks. Even when they are to be dedicated to barbless fishing. I also try to leave as big a bump as possible at the barb site by carefully pinching just the end of the barb. The hook still slides out of the fish without any snagging barb. But I probably land thirty percent more fish like this than I ever would using smooth, factory made barbless hooks.

Try the barbless hooks. They have a slimmer taper do to the lack of a barb and therefor will penetrate easier. This makes it harder for the fish to twist a hook out.
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
#21
Call it in no matter what. LE keeps track of such things and they get to know who the real poachers are. Sooner or later they will get caught. LE will work someone that is a known poacher. There isn't enough LE so they need us to tell them what is going on. The more we report, the more LE knows, upping the odds they will get the bad guys.
 

Alex MacDonald

that's His Lordship, to you.....
#22
Just keepin' it real bro. Point that thing at the ground. No ones arguing ;)..

I don't have to get naked now! Do I ?!?
well, you're safe unless I catch you working on the locks on my rig:eek: but I never have my weapon pointed at the ground... we were trained not to fight gravity... Well, unless I'm "skeeting" that is, kinda hard to keep a side by side or an O/U pointed at the sky when the breech is open!
 
#23
In BC, there is the Report A Poacher and Polluter program which has worked quite well for me personally. Three times in the last 4 years I have observed, documented and reported confirmed poachers and on all three occasions it led to charges and eventually convictions under the program. Whether or not I see the offender, I always report illegal or suspected activity as like Kerry said, the more reports the conservation officers have, the more information they have to go on for their patrols or whatever. Furthermore, the CO's budget is always at risk and to justify their non-existence, the hatchet men will be looking at figures like 'How many violation reports were made this past year'. It's along the same lines as crime rates going down because people don't bother reporting crimes. It gives a false indication that things are looking up and that some cops can be taken off the payroll.
 

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#25
And to me a poacher is anyone who is fishing illegally in any way...

Make up your mind, you dirty poacher you, openly admitting that you don't always pinch your barbs and then turning around and admitting that you maximize the amount of barb left over. Couple that with then trying to back peddle with concepts of intent and you are nothing better than a stinking troll trying to stir the pot.

Ok, ok, I approach people I suspect with an extreme open mind because I'm one of those gullible naive f.ck.s who believe the best in people. 9 out of 10 times I find people are honestly ignorant and in those cases as a skilled educator I find I'm able to realistically help most of those to better understand not only the rules, but also the intention behind the rules in the first place. Now those other 10 %... Well let's just say I'm loud, very, very loud and even though I don't pack, and I'm not particularly large I can intimidate with my voice and gift for the gab. First I scare, and then I humor, and then they leave, or change their ways.

As for reporting, I have never been afraid to report any crime or potential crime, I'm kind of a dick that way. In fact I plan to report a certain original poster for his barb infringement.
 

10incher

Active Member
#26
Hey now! I never failed to pinch a barb intentionally! And there is NO backward, pointy thingy when I pinch. And who doesn't like a nice hump?

Kudos for being one to step up. It can be a little intimidating sometimes. You see it happening and you size up the situation: "Hmmm... visible prison ink, scar under left eye, probably works out as I can see because of the sleeveless shirt." And then you go in anyway because you know there's no living with yourself otherwise.
 

Irafly

Indi "Ira" Jones
#28
Hey now! I never failed to pinch a barb intentionally! And there is NO backward, pointy thingy when I pinch. And who doesn't like a nice hump?

Intentional or not, you said a poacher in your mind is anyone who fishes illegally in anyway, Jeff and I are finding our ropes as soon as I finish this typing....