Pattern doc spratley

zen leecher aka bill w

born to work, forced to fish
#17
Norm, I wouldn't class it as a beat down unless you got PMs in addition. I called them skinny. They are also very neatly tied. Some of the stuff I've seen for sale in BC had the plump sedge body but didn't have that nice neat look.
 

GAT

Dumbfounded
#18
well i thought i tied them per the recipe and from some fotos online but got a beat down instead. never again. thanks
You mean you didn't come here for your fair share of abuse? :)

Two rules for Internet Forums: 1) never take anything typed too seriously. 2) see rule one.

I always enjoy seeing the patterns you post so the hell with everyone else! :p

(considering the discrepancies in fly pattern recipes from the originals -- for crying out loud, the original Prince Nymph includes no peacock herl-- there's always going to be different interpretations of the same pattern -- sometimes, the mutant works better than the original. I'm still not exactly sure how the devil you're supposed to tie a Carey Special. that pattern has mutated seven ways to Sunday)
 

psycho

Active Member
#19
One thing that I have learned about the internet, a thick skin is essential. I NEVER let anything typed on the internet get under my skin. Norm, there is nothing wrong with your flies, I have seen Spratleys tied fat ,thin and everything in between. Yours are far better than the ones that I tie beside some lake when I have forgotten the careful ties at home. The older that I get the worse my flies look. I would fish yours any day, in fact you can send me a dozen anytime that you like. Just PM me for an address.:D
 

zen leecher aka bill w

born to work, forced to fish
#20
Norm, After looking at your flies for a bit I'd call them a Spratley with a thin Carey body. I can't tell if your tail and throat hackle are grizzly or guinea. I've started using guinea as it's "old school".
 
#22
I hope there was nothing in my post which was taken as a negative.
The "Doc" is an interesting fly. I would just love to see the original. All I know for sure is that it was tied on a #6 hook with a black wool body. It was a lake fly and probably was trolled? Over the years it has been tied in all different sizes, colors, body materials (floss, wool, chenille) and configurations (dragonfly nymph, minnow, chironomid pupa). This often happens to fly patterns over time; especially good ones. So, there is no "wrong" Doc Sprately. I suspect that Norm's black rendition might be closest to the original fly. Personally, I prefer the olive color which is the one I usually tie.
Jack
 
#24
The post must have been deleted or the insult p.m.ed, cuz I didn't read anything resembling a beatdown.
I haven't edited my post. I think it was one of the other posts about "skinny" maybe? Probably just said in jest.
Norm is a great tier. I always enjoy his poppers/bass bugs. Great paint jobs.


Jack
 
#25
FOR ME, fly recipes are like cooking recipes, they are just a guide and you can add your own flair. It's the creative outlet that makes it fun, for me.

The flies in question are well proportioned and nicely tied.
 
#26
I got on a Doc Spratley tying jag last winter and filled a box with variants on a great theme. A couple of my favorite variations are to make the body of peacock herl, another is red dyed pheasant tail for the wing, and a third is a Doc Spratley dry, which has an elk hair tail, with the elk hairs forming the underbody, and a grizzly dry hackle over the pheasant tail wing.

Array of Doc Spratley variations
Doc Spratley array 2.jpg

Doc Spratley dry
Doc Spratley dry black.jpg
 

kelvin

Active Member
#28
I got on a Doc Spratley tying jag last winter and filled a box with variants on a great theme. A couple of my favorite variations are to make the body of peacock herl, another is red dyed pheasant tail for the wing, and a third is a Doc Spratley dry, which has an elk hair tail, with the elk hairs forming the underbody, and a grizzly dry hackle over the pheasant tail wing.

Array of Doc Spratley variations
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Doc Spratley dry
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nice dry pattern
 

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