Anyone used these fancy rio anti twist spey swivels?

#16
^I agree with the above. When I first started with two handers I got so many tangles in my running line because I didn't understand how to coil it. Once I mastered the rotating my hand position thing it was all milk and honey from then on.

Deneki Outdoors has a video about how to properly coil running line in the "loops vs. coils" method. Its on Youtube, check it out. As for swivels, I find I get the most line twist on my streamer rods from retrieving it. So I added a big barrel swivel connected with looped #40 mono and then I run my leader off of that. Cost me maybe 30 cents and does the job.
 

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#17
^I agree with the above. When I first started with two handers I got so many tangles in my running line because I didn't understand how to coil it. Once I mastered the rotating my hand position thing it was all milk and honey from then on.

Deneki Outdoors has a video about how to properly coil running line in the "loops vs. coils" method. Its on Youtube, check it out. As for swivels, I find I get the most line twist on my streamer rods from retrieving it. So I added a big barrel swivel connected with looped #40 mono and then I run my leader off of that. Cost me maybe 30 cents and does the job.


 

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#18
That was interesting, thanks for pointing it out troutdope. I do something completely different. And probably wrong as well. I strip all the line in (leaving the strips in the water, basically as one big loop) and then pickup the end of the loop and make my cast. I found the loop end made the most drag, so picking it up made things easier. I'm going to practice the old climbers trick though. Looks cool.
 

Luke77

I hope she likes whitefish
#19
Embarrassed to say, I just learned how to properly manage running line last year as I wasn't achieving the distances I wanted on the OP. I typically won't even hold the running line as most the rivers I fish don't require long casts, but boy, once you figure it out and get that running line out of the water, your casting distance greatly improves.

Interesting product, I'm not sure i've had issues with kinked running line. I'm guessing these issues only exist with mono type running lines. I can see how this would develop lines like the slick shooter as it's almost a tape/flat line rather than round.
 
#20
Well there you go... Thanks deneki.

Any running line will eventually twist and begin to kink it's a given but how quickly depends on your line management. I run mono because its cheap, shoots the best, and if anything compromises it I can cut it and tie a new perfection loop in about 60 seconds and be fishing again confidently. If you step on your ridge line half way through a float, you're gonna have to get a little creative.
 
#21
Great video. It's also important to make those loops as big as possible because the less line in hand the less chances of running line tangle. I hate when I get those little running line knots and having to stop everything to fix just in case a monster steelie gets on and strips my eye guides out.
 

KerryS

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#22
Well there you go... Thanks deneki.

Any running line will eventually twist and begin to kink it's a given
I am going to say this one more time; in thirty years of fishing with a two handed rod I have never had problems with line twist. I do nothing special while stripping in line. I strip, I hold a couple of loops, I cast, I swing. No line twist. I am still trying to figure out where all this line twist comes from.
 

JesseC

Active Member
#23
I am going to say this one more time; in thirty years of fishing with a two handed rod I have never had problems with line twist. I do nothing special while stripping in line. I strip, I hold a couple of loops, I cast, I swing. No line twist. I am still trying to figure out where all this line twist comes from.

Congratulations Kerry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
#25
How many loops are you guys running? Maybe I don't cast as far but I never run more than 2 loops(7 and 6 pulls).

Seems like carrying loops of less than 4 pulls and your running line comes off the water to easily and causes issues.
 

JesseC

Active Member
#26
How many loops are you guys running? Maybe I don't cast as far but I never run more than 2 loops(7 and 6 pulls).

Seems like carrying loops of less than 4 pulls and your running line comes off the water to easily and causes issues.
Three "coils" of 5 pulls on the big rivers.
 

danimal

Inglorious Twohander
#29
On intermediate skag heads of large dia.- 570 grns on up to 630 grns- which is what I am fishing.
I have found the heads to spin in current, thus ruining a couple spools of slick shooter for me..
I use swivels on the back of these sinkers to mono shooter..Bought my own sz 14 hi strength crane swivels alot cheaper that those that r posted---works great!! I run big game optic in 40-50# now cause its cheaper too..
 
#30
I am going to say this one more time; in thirty years of fishing with a two handed rod I have never had problems with line twist. I do nothing special while stripping in line. I strip, I hold a couple of loops, I cast, I swing. No line twist. I am still trying to figure out where all this line twist comes from.

Kerry it seems to be really relative to how much running line you are constantly handling. I notice it a lot more with 20' skagit heads on bigger water where you may be stripping 50-60 feet of running line all day. I do think the intermediate skagit heads (both short and submerged) do actually spin a bit in some instances.

Obviously this could make a case for fishing a longer head and handling less running line on bigger rivers. But for me personally I find more versatility with the short head and can deal with a little twisting now and then while giving a little extra thought into how I deal with my coils of line. Plus I catch so many beautiful bull trout doing all that stripping.

I also am in the anti swivel camp on my rods. Doesn't seem right, but whatever works!