Upper columbia and tribs to open for Steelhead Oct. 16th

#19
I heard the 3 day test fishery on the Methow resulted in no steelhead caught.
Just because they came over the dam doesn't mean they're in the Methow. 2010, they didn't come in the river at all until March. They can be weird some years, just chilling out in the Columbia.
 

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#20
Yeah, somestimes they just won't cooperate :) There were 9,000 or so over Rock Island before counting stopped, and that would be divided between a number of release sites. Not tremendous numbers so far. BUT over half of them are wild, so the catching and releasing might be pretty good. This fits with the Bonneville numbers (good wild return, noticeably reduced brat returns).

But it's fishing, not math class. You only need one to catch a fish :)
 

golfman44

5-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year
#21
As far as the regs go I need to add the $8 or so Columbia tag to my license. Can I just walk into a Big 5 or something and add it or is it something that I have to do online? Pretty annoying...my Oregon license covered everything, regardless of where that river flowed to.
 

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#23
As far as the regs go I need to add the $8 or so Columbia tag to my license. Can I just walk into a Big 5 or something and add it or is it something that I have to do online? Pretty annoying...my Oregon license covered everything, regardless of where that river flowed to.
Well not anymore. Endorsement is needed for them now too
 

Freestone

Not to be confused with freestoneangler
#25
All I had was a normal license + steelhead tag and I was good on the deschutes. Checked 3 times by odfw.
Be glad that you only have to pay $8 as if we did not, there would be no fishery. The Upper Columbia steelhead (and chinook) were listed as endangered, so it takes a special permit from NOAA every year to even open the river and there are lots of expensive requirements that go with it, requirements that impact the whole system. Without the extra funding, the state would not have enough money to pay the extra expenses related to opening fishing under the permit so there would be no fishery at all.
 

golfman44

5-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year
#26
Be glad that you only have to pay $8 as if we did not, there would be no fishery. The Upper Columbia steelhead (and chinook) were listed as endangered, so it takes a special permit from NOAA every year to even open the river and there are lots of expensive requirements that go with it, requirements that impact the whole system. Without the extra funding, the state would not have enough money to pay the extra expenses related to opening fishing under the permit so there would be no fishery at all.
I'm not upset at paying the $8 at all. I just think its weird that they have an additional tag for certain rivers is all. I'd rather them just charge everyone like $4 more across the state or whatever for convenience. I guess I'm just annoyed about having to spend more time going back to Big 5 to get another permit. Granted I could have done this the first time around but I just wasn't aware of it. Now I know for next year
 

Freestone

Not to be confused with freestoneangler
#27
I'm not upset at paying the $8 at all. I donated more than that when I bought my first license.

I just think its weird that they have an additional tag for certain rivers is all. Rather them just charge everyone like $4 more across the state or whatever for convenience.
If I were you, I would do some more reading about this unique fishery before you come over so that you understand the very unique situation and don't get in trouble. There is no other fishery like this in the state or maybe in the country. It was closed for a years because of the endangered species. It took a lot of hard work by many WDFW people and locals to get it back open. NOAA allowed it to be open only under a very strict set of guidelines, again guidelines that are in place no where else. So, it is either follow the guidelines and pay to implement them or have no fishing at all for anything, not even trout in the summer.

And, why should everyone else pay if they don't fish here? If I'm a warm water lake bass guy, I would be pissed that I had to pay so other dudes can go harass endangered and threaten species.

By the way, in case you don't know, you are REQUIRED to keep the first 2 hatchery steelhead you catch and you will be fined if you get caught releasing them. So, come prepared with a knife, fish bag and/or cooler along with a pen to record them on your catch card. I write the river numbers on the back of my catch card so I am prepared to properly record them. If you are not willing to harvest hatchery steelhead, I would strongly urge you to stay home as this is not a catch and release fishery for imperiled wild steelhead. The season is only open to remove the excess hatchery steelhead and it is taken very seriously by Enforcement. Heck, it is taken seriously by me and I will be the first one to turn somebody in, LOL, as a few idiots could get the whole thing closed for good, something NOAA had threatened when they find out anglers aren't abiding by the special rules.
 

golfman44

5-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year
#28
If I were you, I would do some more reading
Slow down chief I was talking about the deschutes, which is in Oregon...maybe you could do some more reading on the posts you are replying to ;) (just kidding)

I read all of that from wdfw -- I appreciate the reminder tho. I'll be sure to call in violators as well who don't give those hatch tards the ol Nate TreatMent

Good luck out there!
 

Freestone

Not to be confused with freestoneangler
#29
... BUT over half of them are wild, so the catching and releasing might be pretty good. This fits with the Bonneville numbers (good wild return, noticeably reduced brat returns).
Hopefully the catch and releasing for wild fish isn't good as that will shut the season down pretty f'ing quick! The ratio of wild:hatchery is unusually high so it is not going to take too long to reach the maximum wild fish encountered to shut the whole thing down, especially if the usual cadre of selfish idiots release brats so they can keep fishing. I'm hoping for an early heavy snow year to close the passes, LOL!
 
#30
As far as the regs go I need to add the $8 or so Columbia tag to my license. Can I just walk into a Big 5 or something and add it or is it something that I have to do online? Pretty annoying...my Oregon license covered everything, regardless of where that river flowed to.

DAMN I saved your ass didn't I?
 

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