Advanced Indicator Rig Instructional Video

PT

Physhicist
#91
Nick, get a single action reel and long rod for your downrigger fishing. Fish herring or spoons stacked above your flasher (flasher attached to downrigger ball) so it's not attached to your line. Fish plugs with no flasher for kings.
 
#92
Chris, attaching the flasher to the ball is something I see mentioned more and more and is something I need to learn. Do you just use a snap swivel or whatever and clip it on directly to the ball? How far off the ball do you run it? I'd love to be able to utilize the effectiveness of a flasher without having to fight the damn thing along with the fish.



sinking lines are the same as split shot? what about clear intermediates with no "lead"?

a lead line (whether a full shooting head or a tip) is an integral part of the weight of the fly line needed for the cast. split shot are not which is a simple difference. the material is not the defining part, but how it is used. foam can be used on poppers, or fished deep using drift gear (corkies, etc) but i bet you wouldn't think of calling a corkie and yarn a fly or someone drift fishing with slinkies and a corky(even if using a fly rod) a fly fisherman.

as for downriggers.... keep it simple and keep fishing the gear you have (and connect the flasher to the ball) instead of constantly changing gear. have your gear ready so if you need to change anything you can do it quickly and not lose valuable fishing time. and bring coffee for when the bite is off... don't want to run aground when you fall asleep. :D
 
#93
I am hoping to get better geared up this winter. I picked up a couple outfits to use this summer, but they really aren't that great for downrigger fishing. I have been out of gear fishing for so long. I reckon I should find a good local sporting goods store and go in and spend some time, and some money, figuring out what I want.

I fished with a guy this summer who had longer, softer rods and they were a hoot. He had Avet reels, which sure did make it easy to keep up with a running king.


Nick, get a single action reel and long rod for your downrigger fishing. Fish herring or spoons stacked above your flasher (flasher attached to downrigger ball) so it's not attached to your line. Fish plugs with no flasher for kings.
 
#94
I have a hard time seeing the difference between lead added to a fly body for weight, a bead/cone added to the fly for weight, or a split shot added to the tippet for weight. All serve the exact same purpose - to get the FLY down. You have a fly rod/reel, you're casting a fly line, and you're using a fly - sounds like fly fishing to me.
 

KerryS

Ignored Member
#95
Can you cast your fly at the end of 10 feet of leader, some lead weight and a float with a bait caster? Can you cast your fly at the end of 30 feet of sinking tip fly line plus 10 feet of tippet and no other added weight with a bait caster?
 
#96
Can you cast your fly at the end of 10 feet of leader, some lead weight and a float with a bait caster? Can you cast your fly at the end of 30 feet of sinking tip fly line plus 10 feet of tippet and no other added weight with a bait caster?
Not with the amount of lead you'd use on a nymph rig. I'm sure you could cast some of the big heavy cone head streamers people swing with (sculpzilla, etc) on a gear rod with no additional weight needed though.
 
#99
I'd say Kerry makes a good point though.

You might be able to fling a cast out there with a nymph rig or t-whatever on a gear rod--but would you be able to cast it effectively for the situation? Would you be able to fish it effectively?

To me, fly casting=fly fishing. There are limits to how far you can take that, and I would put the line between the two (gear and fly) somewhere around where those limits are.

Take beach fishing for example. I could tie a jig to look like a pink/white clouser and fish that with a spinning rod. Or I can tie a regular clouser with dumbell eyes (or even something lighter and throw on a couple pieces of splilt shot) and fish that with a fly rod. Both are going to do about the same thing. Both are mention to have a certain action and fish a certain way. But you can't really interchange them effectively without changing some things.

I kept telling myself I wouldn't enter this. But Kerry struck a chord there, I guess.
 
Yep. It's fun though. At least as long as people don't get offended by other's opinions. Oh wait, I forgot, this is the internet.

I'd like to hear some more stories about people throwing things like Dick Nite's with the spey rod. I'm pretty sure I'm going to do that at some point this winter, just for the hell of it, and probably after several beers.
 
I'd like to hear some more stories about people throwing things like Dick Nite's with the spey rod. I'm pretty sure I'm going to do that at some point this winter, just for the hell of it, and probably after several beers.
dick nites on a fly rod totally work. They're way lighter than a lot of the hefty flies the Spey bro'z chuck.
 
Same here. I tried hijacking this thing but that didn't work either. There will be no convincing anyone in either direction. This argument will continue on and on and on.
$.02- I don't really care so much about definitions, but more the attitude that comes with bead fishing, and I have a dedicated bead rig (10' spinning set up) for kids and newbs in the boat at all times.

Anymore (for guides) it's about getting people on fish, bottom line. Rowing over others water? That's cool now. Fishing right below someone that's currently swinging a run? That's how we do on the Columbia tribs.

It's not like holding a fish out of water for a pic or 3 is a huge deal to such a robust fish, but to teach people that the rules are to be followed as you see fit, is lamesauce.

Can't remember the last time I saw a dude swinging being a douchewaffle out on the drink.