KLICKITAT PRESSURE

David Dalan

69°19'15.35" N 18°44'22.74" E
#61
The proposed rule will allow "everyone" a chance to land their legal limit of fish but no more. It's perfectly fair and equitable for all fisherman...fly, gear, bait, bobber...everyone.

If you need to land more than two hatchery steelhead per day maybe the Klickitat isn't the river for you...but then again, you might land 6 wild before you get to 2 hatchery fish!!! How many fish does it take to make a successful day of fishing? It only becomes a limitation once you've experienced "way better than average success". The rule proposal will only limit the very successful angler and only for the day...seems extremely reasonable.

Well fine, there you go making sense.

I suspect my time on the water will be exactly the same with or without the rule...i.e. I find fish, but not usually enough to limit out :)

Upon reflection, it does seem that this would limit "professionals" a lot more than the average joe.
 
#62
The proposed rule will allow "everyone" a chance to land their legal limit of fish but no more. It's perfectly fair and equitable for all fisherman...fly, gear, bait, bobber...everyone.

If you need to land more than two hatchery steelhead per day maybe the Klickitat isn't the river for you...but then again, you might land 6 wild before you get to 2 hatchery fish!!! How many fish does it take to make a successful day of fishing? It only becomes a limitation once you've experienced "way better than average success". The rule proposal will only limit the very successful angler and only for the day...seems extremely reasonable.
Exactly my point! Well said, Rolf. Tom
 

JesseC

Active Member
#63
Exactly my point! Well said, Rolf. Tom

Yeah, it's going to be really super duper cool to see the game warden planes flying overhead keeping track of the number of times a guy has caught a fish. Actually, i think they'll release a rod load measurement device.... once it pulls twice, game over.... no more pulls or it'll sound an alarm. Or, since there are SO MANY gameys over there, I am sure we'll see them hiding in trees all up and down the river to enforce this.

I cannot think of the real reason you guys want to do this, knowing that it's impossible to enforce on a river like the klick. Maybe it'll hit me later.

Want to reduce pressure? No fishing from a boat and auction off a limit of guide licenses- money going to back to habitat improvements or some other BS environmental hoo hah stuff.

I love guides. I spend money with guides. But, when there's a congo line of them going down the rivers it's ridiculous. It's a public resource, not your profit playground.

If you don't think over guiding impacts a fishery the size of the klickitat i'd like to toss an idea your way... steelhead are idiots. They sit behind the same rock and spot in a hole as their cousin, uncles, granparents, and brothers.... yes, it seems year after year after year. Hook a fish once and you better GPS that shit and fish it hard the next year.

Well, what happens when you have a dude fishing the river every single day for months..... mowing down every single inch of that water with Terry Shiavo'd beads bottom dredging the whole river. Dude - you're going to know every single holding spot in the river within one season. That's why guides are so good. That's a big part of the skill in my opinion.... knowing right where the fish are. Have you ever seen a guide pull a bunch of fat ass clients back up the river two or three times? Yes, the guide is that insane, he knows he missed the bite lane by two inches and he's going back damnit.

So... a couple of good guides? They won't show the client each spot.. just work them for 3 fish in a day. Everyone gets their hero shot and that magical I am a bad ass feeling.

But oh man.... what happens when you have 15 guide boats all racing to the river like a pack of hairless hyenas to get the first swats?

The fish will be hooked five or six times. They'll start to say to themselves.... dude.... wtf.... I am not ever eating one of those orange things that bites back again. F this....

And for the regular dude who's new to fly fishing, who's changing his sink tip every other run, breaking out a rainbow spectrum of flies, casting here and there and everywhere trying to scratch up a fish? Not a chance buddy. Give it 4 years or so and you'll know the rock to stand on and pound on to force a bite too.

End Rant.
 
#64
Yeah, it's going to be really super duper cool to see the game warden planes flying overhead keeping track of the number of times a guy has caught a fish. Actually, i think they'll release a rod load measurement device.... once it pulls twice, game over.... no more pulls or it'll sound an alarm. Or, since there are SO MANY gameys over there, I am sure we'll see them hiding in trees all up and down the river to enforce this.

I cannot think of the real reason you guys want to do this, knowing that it's impossible to enforce on a river like the klick. Maybe it'll hit me later.

Want to reduce pressure? No fishing from a boat and auction off a limit of guide licenses- money going to back to habitat improvements or some other BS environmental hoo hah stuff.

I love guides. I spend money with guides. But, when there's a congo line of them going down the rivers it's ridiculous. It's a public resource, not your profit playground.

If you don't think over guiding impacts a fishery the size of the klickitat i'd like to toss an idea your way... steelhead are idiots. They sit behind the same rock and spot in a hole as their cousin, uncles, granparents, and brothers.... yes, it seems year after year after year. Hook a fish once and you better GPS that shit and fish it hard the next year.

Well, what happens when you have a dude fishing the river every single day for months..... mowing down every single inch of that water with Terry Shiavo'd beads bottom dredging the whole river. Dude - you're going to know every single holding spot in the river within one season. That's why guides are so good. That's a big part of the skill in my opinion.... knowing right where the fish are. Have you ever seen a guide pull a bunch of fat ass clients back up the river two or three times? Yes, the guide is that insane, he knows he missed the bite lane by two inches and he's going back damnit.

So... a couple of good guides? They won't show the client each spot.. just work them for 3 fish in a day. Everyone gets their hero shot and that magical I am a bad ass feeling.

But oh man.... what happens when you have 15 guide boats all racing to the river like a pack of hairless hyenas to get the first swats?

The fish will be hooked five or six times. They'll start to say to themselves.... dude.... wtf.... I am not ever eating one of those orange things that bites back again. F this....

And for the regular dude who's new to fly fishing, who's changing his sink tip every other run, breaking out a rainbow spectrum of flies, casting here and there and everywhere trying to scratch up a fish? Not a chance buddy. Give it 4 years or so and you'll know the rock to stand on and pound on to force a bite too.

End Rant.
Dude
 

golfman44

5-Time Puget Sound Steelhead Guide of the Year
#65
If you guys think the mandatory kill rule is actually followed by more than 5‰ of anglers you're delusional
 

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