NFR Time For a New SUV

Denny W

Active Member
I have had a GMC Acadia for 3 years. I love the ride and comfort and room. Also, tow my drift boat. Gas mileage not so good at 17 around town and I get 21 on long road trips. Made 12 runs up the road to Chopaka so I know it holds up on gravel.. Have 76,000 on it and no problems. I will buy anotherwhen it is time. Had sububans for many, many years.
 

constructeur

Active Member
I know you've made a choice, but did you look over a previously leased Lexus RX 450h? If you can afford them, it seemed to fit the bill for space, capability, and fuel economy since we can't get Toyota made diesels here in the states...
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
Our first Lexus was an RX300. Sold it at 92,000 miles to my secretary (is that still on OK word?) who has over 250,000 on it now. Great vehicle but can't tow and not enough ground clearance.

I think the Acadia deserves a look, and I appreciate the reminder. No Buick though! I would just have a very hard time getting back into a domestic and I'm not sure how well the minivan based vehicles tow?
 

Rob Ast

Active Member
Limited experience, but I have an 09 Taco which is, well, a truck. Floaty and bouncy at the same time. Recently rented a new Grand Cherokee and it was light years ahead in handling. My parents have an older Grand Cherokee and the interior on the new ones is a far far nicer place to be.
 

flyfishsail

New Member
+1 for the Jeep Grand Cherokee. 2011 Overland V8 16.5 mpg city and 19.5+ Mpg on the freeway. The part that has sold me is that full sized humans can sit in the back seats from Seattle to Rocky Ford with no comfort issues. Some small issues but Jeep has always taken care of them no questions asked. Went through your same dilemma getting rid of a 2002 Tacoma V6. Loved the old 4runners but the new ones not so much..
 

Dan Nelson

Hiker, Fisher, Writer, Bum
The Jeep Grand Cherokee was very nice, and that new MoPar 8 speed tranny is the bomb. It's comfortable, has a ton of power, well finished. Very nice.


Donna has a 2014 Grand Cherokee Limited. VERY nice rig for ride, fit and finish. But after just a year of driving (she got it May 2013), that 8-speed tranny is doing some really odd things in the lower end. Hard shifts, clunking and banging. A bit of grinding and vibrations at the bottom end of gears. Jeep says is all standard operating noises/processes. But we're a little nervous about this new sealed tranny. (Yes, sealed—there's no way to change or even check the transmission fluid because its a fully sealed system. Not even a dipstick.) Odds are good she'll be selling this rig well before the warranty runs out.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
I really liked the Jeep Grand Cherokee too. We've had two earlier models, both were OK. I had an old 3/4 ton Jeep truck years ago and that was a long ways from OK--the classic collection of parts--but it handled the Nevada desert sand bowls (Toyota Valley) better than any Toyota LC with the stock engine.

The one I drove had a lot more features than the 4Runner and the tranny made it seem more powerful. It was a little nervous on the road though, while the 4Runner was solid and even more comfortable. I think the T4R has become somewhat bifurcated with the current generation--trying to soften up for the road while keeping their rock climbing ability. I'm fine with that, and for me it's a good fit. Don't care about more than one passenger as even a Suburban barely holds gear and pontoons for more than two of us. I think most people, especially those who haven't driven a truck/BOF SUV as a daily for years would prefer a unibody like the Jeep, and if for some reason that didn't work out, the Jeep would be a strong second.

Our Taco is a 2012, current generation, and it's quite smooth, very pleasant to drive and ride in. My first vehicle was a 1966 Toyota Stout PU with rubber mats and a 4 speed on the column with a granny as 1st, so Toyota has come a long ways in their small trucks too. FWIW, I drove a new F-150 for awhile last week, and I have to say it was probably the most miserable vehicle I've ever driven. Drove big, no road manners, but looked great. I think I'm pretty ingrained in German or Japanese for enjoyable drivers. If BMW could build a car that could stay out of the shop after 50K, that's probably all I'd ever own.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
Donna has a 2014 Grand Cherokee Limited. VERY nice rig for ride, fit and finish. But after just a year of driving (she got it May 2013), that 8-speed tranny is doing some really odd things in the lower end….Odds are good she'll be selling this rig well before the warranty runs out.

Uh…that was kind of our experience with our Jeeps. I have never seen them as 100K mile vehicles.
 

rustybee

Active Member
I bought a Acura MDX a few months ago, downsizing from a Tahoe. I love my Acura! It's a Great driving vehicle, capable of anything I want to do and it has plenty of power. I thought I'd really miss the size of the Tahoe, but I don't at all and it makes fairly frequent city driving a whole lot less stressful. Being that it's just a re-formed Honda Pilot, it hasn't disappointed me in terms of reliability. It's capable of towing a drift boat with ease, but I don't think it's rated for much more than that.

I own a MDX too and absolutely enjoy my experience with it so far (60k later). Fuel mileage is decent, ride level comfortable, AWD system excellent with a good set of winters. Ground clearance is a bit of a concern when dealing with steep terrain. Towing capacity of 5000lb, which isn't nearly enough to pull a trailer (figure 4000lb max and would recommend tailer brakes).
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
The MDX is what I want my wife to get instead of her Lexus. We took the Lexi on a 1500 mile road trip last year and it was miserable after a few hours. The MDX is very comfortable and has great visibility and will carry some stuff. Not for me, but perfect for "us" and of course her ;-)
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
kbb says it's worth $8,000. We'll see. I would have guessed less. I ran it by the dealer today and he said it sounded right as it's a Limited 4WD. This is a car I WOULD sell to a friend or someone on here. I've had a few I wholesaled.

Not quite ready yet as I don't know if I'm going to order a '14 or '15 (15s will hit the port 9/15), and I need to detail some stuff, BUT if someone up there wants it after seeing a lot of pics and some conversation, I'd drive it up to you in exchange for a day or two of guiding me on a good dry side lake. Sound fair? 2003, Limited 4WD V8 never wrecked or damaged, original owner, perfect shape mechanically and very good cosmetically, white/beige leather. 3 seats. Currently 178,000 miles and counting.
 

Jake Dixon

Member
I'd check craigslist to see what they are selling for. I just sold a 1999 4runner with 180k for $6500. It didn't have a lot of bells and whistles, but it generated a lot of interest. 4Runners sell for way over book around here. I think this era of toyotas are widely regarded for their reliability and quality. $8k sounds like a great deal.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
Craigslist prices are higher, especially the pot lot dealers. Maybe $8k is where it sells. The Sequoia is odd in that they kind of lost it for gen 2. They were bigger, didn't drive as well, worse mileage (mine is 15.4 -15.9 trip computer) and look like a Dodge Caravan. The gen 1s (2001-2007) are all over still, but you hardly see any gen 2s. This still has the original floor mats and in decent shape. I give Toyota credit for that, not me. It's been a wonderful truck.
 

SquatchinSince86

Active Member
How has the reliability been? When I lived in the NW I bought a new Volvo sedan in 1973 and loved it. I moved down here, and 5 years later bought another one. That car…..well, I was on a first name basis with the service manager and he finally admitted he couldn't fix the electrical problems. I invoked the Lemon Law and they bought it back for $1500 less than I had paid almost three years before so we were square. Obviously soured me on Volvos so that's why I ask.

Mine is an '03, with nothing more than regular maintenance and a new fly wheel. Are you still looking or settled on the Jeep? A buddy of mine was a jeep dealer and was unimpressed with what you got for what you paid but, he is a very opinionated guy. I havent driven or been in one, they are nice to look at though.
 

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