NFR Time For a New SUV

Chawhee

Active Member
Those are goodyear duratracs. I have a set and they are the quietest all terrain tire I have ever had. Those tires are quickly replacing the BFG T/A KO for the go to offroad tire. However, who knows what tire they will actually come with at the dealer. Here is a pic of my rig. I'm not a crazy fan of the yellow, but it is growing on me.

+1 on the white.
 

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Actually I love that color! They are offering this package for the Taco, T4R, and Tundra in 2015. There's no pricing on these yet, but the dealer offered to order one for me and then let me see if I like it. Again, I'm concerned about the ride with the knobby tires. I do like the design a lot though--the less plastic and chrome accents the better. Might look good in white too.


Well, LC, I was looking at a similar situation as you. Had a 2006
Tundra that I traded. I was looking for a used 4Runner, but the
used ones were almost the same pricing as new ones.

I wanted a suv that fit through my garage door, could tow my boat
and got reasonable gas milage. Narrowed it down to 4Runner and
Grand Cherokee. The T4R had more space which was important to
me, so got a T4R.

So far, I'm happy with the choice I made. I still feel a little bit like
I'm herding cats down the hiway, but it meets most of my needs,
ie gas mileage, towing, hauling float tubes and gear for 2 fly fishers.

You'll like it.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
I think the yellow is OK. I would probably reverse the tires. It needs some blacked out accents.

On the off road tires, the road noise can be annoying. I usually just run M+S. They don't look as good but get me over the pass legally in the winter (no studded tires in CA), and are fine on the road.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
I wanted a suv that fit through my garage door, could tow my boat
and got reasonable gas milage. Narrowed it down to 4Runner and
Grand Cherokee. The T4R had more space which was important to
me, so got a T4R.

So far, I'm happy with the choice I made. I still feel a little bit like
I'm herding cats down the hiway, but it meets most of my needs,
ie gas mileage, towing, hauling float tubes and gear for 2 fly fishers.

So, our needs are about the same. For whatever reason I thought it handled beautifully on the surface streets and the freeway. I've read about complaints; I just didn't see it. It was definitely more secure than the Jeep.
 

constructeur

Active Member
Tire wise, you guys might like the Michelin LTX M/S 2's. They were actually a design JV between Toyota and Michelin specifically for the Landcruiser in the early 90's, and have been updated since, in the late 00's. I have a set on my 92 cruiser (after I wore a set of the BFG T/A KO's out), and they're quiet, throw less rocks than the BFG's and are plenty capable offroad (even though they just look like a light truck tire.)


...all this fishing/travel/camp rig talk, I'm such an eccentric, I've been thinking lately about an older 4runner with the removable hardtop that I would freshen up, but I've seen a surge of shops importing the older diesel hilux's and surfs' (diesel 4 runner) and think those would be cool as hell to have too.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
If this vehicle were dedicated for huntin' 'n fishin' 'n boatin' 'n 'campin' (thank you Albert Brooks for "Rewriting the National Anthem"), and not for trips and general purpose, I'd either get an older T4R and build it, or more likely, the original Ford Bronco with removable hard top--if one could be found. Those were a high school kid's wet dream back then.
 

Chawhee

Active Member
1934603_10150920472510527_306580173_n.jpg also, here is a picture of a 86 sammy with a volkswagen diesel that my brother put together =) turbo diesel mMmMmm
 

steelydan

Newb seeking wisdom
I've posted before how unimpressed I am with my last two Toyotas.
Under-engineered compared to my other cars.
My 2006 Tacoma doublecab 4X4 needed:
New springs all the way around, and I'm not talking '19 year old wants a lifted mall cruiser'. It literally rode on the frame rails in back. Known issue. Toyota issues 'Technical Service Bulletins' instead of recalls, that way they only have to replace the springs on vehicles under warranty.
Do a search for 'Frame rail rusting out'.....That will alter your Toyota quality perspective.
New radio...3 times. Finally, I just bought a $99 JVC unit and was amazed at the upgrade.
My alloy wheels after 3 years look like they were a corrosion test bed.
People point at them and say WTF....Toyota laughs and says 'you're out of warranty'. Never had that happen on a VW, Dodge, or Jeep.
The 6sp manual tranny is another engineering fail....2500 rpm at 70mph is ridiculous.
I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee that was a much better on and offroad vehicle and required no re-engineering and was extremely reliable.
I would buy a Dodge 1500 diesel and put a shell on the bed and have a much better rig.
If I had to have an SUV, it would be a Jeep Gr Cherokee.

Toyota is brutally over-rated.
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
I think we have opinions based on our experiences. Obviously ours are different with the Toys.

I do have fond memories of the one Dodge I owned. It was I think a 1952 sedan, and I bought it for $25 when I was a freshman at Willamette. Actually five of us bought it for $5. That included the parking permit than only locals could have in the dorms. It had some weird Fluid Drive or something tranny, a fake vinyl roof made from black contact paper, but we bought it for the comfort and convenience of the very large and commodious mohair seats, front and back.

For the less fortunate freshmen lacking a wheeled motel room, it was also quite a profitable hourly rental for us too.

We never drove it except for short beer runs, except once when I decided to take it up to Portland. It made it to the Woodburn exit and started spewing fluid from somewhere. I pulled the reg and the plates, threw them in a trash can, and hitchhiked home, never heard from anyone nor saw the beloved Dodge again. Oh how I miss her…and her…
 

P.Dieter

Just Another Bubba
$.02
A quick scan of the thread I saw no suggestion for an Explorer. I wonder how many are like me and completely miss the '11 redesign. Completely new rig, might be right next to you at the light and you don't realize it. Anyway had a 2014 rental (granted fully loaded) last month in MO and really liked it. It will be something I look at when my Dakota finally craps out.
 

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