NFR Time For a New SUV

LCnSac

John or "LC"
I've had two Explorers and one Expedition. I sued Ford Motor Company over a blown engine in the Expedition as I learned they were aware of a defective block and kept installing it. They caved pre-hearing and fixed the engine. The second Explorer had engine troubles too. The first was very good. Even so, given the redesign, that's the first vehicle I looked at. Then I went to Consumer Reports to check reliability to see if things had changed. They haven't, so that put me out. Same thing with most domestics. As a group, and granted there are certainly individual exceptions, they just don't hold as well as many of the imports.
 

constructeur

Active Member
I guess I missed the part about this being a Toyota love-a-thon...:D

When the best is good enough...


Seriously though, my love affair is from the Japanese assembled rigs (of any make). They're unstoppable.
 

Alex MacDonald

that's His Lordship, to you.....
We love our `08 Tacoma double cab, and her Ladyship retired her 2000 4rnr in favor of a new Toyota Highlander XLE,which is fantastic! Get the Toyota!
 

David A.

Upside down.
It's not exactly an SUV but, I drive a Volvo XC70, and have loved every single mile I have put on it.

I've had an 05 from new and it's a great car.
The first three years it was my work car and I've driven it all over Australia.
The last few years it's been the family car and been great for day to day stuff.
Off road ?
Not really..;), but on rough roads it's very good.
On road, it's very comfortable, has everything and does everything well.
It's also been bullet proof reliable.
 

David A.

Upside down.
FWIW, a while back I did driver training to get a truck licence and the trainer had a large Volvo rigid truck with 14 tons on the back.
I commented that the auto gearbox and general feel reminded me of my Volvo wagon.
He said - "Dave, driving a Volvo truck is like making love to a very fat women.
Of course there's nothing wrong with making love to a very fat women, you just don't want any of your friends to see you doing it"..:D
 

LCnSac

John or "LC"
When the best is good enough...


Seriously though, my love affair is from the Japanese assembled rigs (of any make). They're unstoppable.
Consumer Reports #1 Most Reliable Vehicle 2014: Subaru Forester. This isn't the first time for Subaru either. I think years ago when MB was building great long term cars Subaru was ranked just behind them. Today Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Infiniti, and Subaru dominate the list, and I'd gladly own any of them that work for me, Acura too. We hold these companies to a higher standard than the rest, and when there's a stumble among them, no matter how isolated, it's all over the news.

I'll support any factory that can build a good, reliable product with the utility I need. I won't support a company building self destructing products, domestic or foreign. GM is the only domestic company with decent across the line reliability for now.
 

Chawhee

Active Member
There is always debate over foreign vs domestic. My opinion is purchasing the best product for the price in a "free" market is more American than anything else.
 

scottybs

Active Member
Consumer Reports #1 Most Reliable Vehicle 2014: Subaru Forester. This isn't the first time for Subaru either. I think years ago when MB was building great long term cars Subaru was ranked just behind them. Today Toyota, Lexus, Honda, Infiniti, and Subaru dominate the list, and I'd gladly own any of them that work for me, Acura too. We hold these companies to a higher standard than the rest, and when there's a stumble among them, no matter how isolated, it's all over the news.

I'll support any factory that can build a good, reliable product with the utility I need. I won't support a company building self destructing products, domestic or foreign. GM is the only domestic company with decent across the line reliability for now.

Except that ignition issue right? ;-)
 
Doesn't matter the brand. Most of them are built in the US now anyway. The wages go to the US. The profits to the shareholders, regardless of whether it's a Ford or a Toyota. I have had two Ford Escapes. Both have been good cars. We've towed a small trailer and small boat with both. The V-6 is snappy but I get nearly the same road mileage with the F 150 I drive. It has a 5 liter V-8; gets a solid 20 mpg on the road unless I towing.
 

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