Not sure but think I bought that rod from you Nooksack Mac. I've used a cutback DT12 and looped sinktips, T-18 is easy. Long rods are fun but make sure your footing is spread out and solid, they will tip you over if you let them. Bought a 20' Hardy "salmon fly" model a number of years ago but have never fished it. It's a 12wt but feels like a 14wt., planned to use it for chinook on the Columbia but couldn't find a line, figured I'd do some splicing and make one but haven't got to it. Now I'm heading for 60 and wonder if I could even cast it. I should though!I fished with a fine 16' Daiwa Altmoor 10/12 for a few years, primarily on the Skagit. I don't any more, because in my 70's, I can no longer cast such a rod with enough force to properly power a longbelly line of over a thousand grains. But I had more of a romantic/historical mindset than was good for me, and it was fun to do it old school, like the iron men of the Victorian era. It's a game for sturdy younger men, and you may want to switch to a shorter rod, sometime during the day.