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Take those green jerseys with you.
Adios Mora...
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Down let the door hit you in the ass Mora. Now you can find your own dirtbags! It's a good Friday.
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·Mora? Hell talk about left with an empty cupboard by fat ass...Listening to it on espn now...Carrol wants to come here because we have a great quarterback? that choking most over rated quarterback in the NFL...Yup Mora fault for letting one of the best tackles go, fullback go...no running game, weak ass defense...defensive backs they name "toast" because they've been burnt so bad...but on the bright side our back up QB is ??? IF old lardo hadn't read his own press and gotten a winner instead of whiner in here...My god, name me another QB who has on REPEATED 4th downs and the end of the game..score and win, don't and you loss...and he threw the ball away!!!!
Yup...all mora's fault...
Yup...all mora's fault...
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Maybe it wasn't Mora's fault, but I don't care. Looks like the Hawks might be following the Mariners' lead, and I'm all for it.
In 2008, both teams were awful, pitiful, embarrassing. After that season the Mariners fired their GM, fired their manager, fired all their coaches and said, except for Felix and Ichiro, all the players are expendable. And so they started expending. Who's left from 2 years ago? Jose Lopez. Ryan Rowland-Smith. Anyone else? And the team is much better, even with pretty much starting from scratch. They're still not great, but they're not embarrassing and they're headed in the right direction.
The Seahawks don't even have Felix and Ichiro. There is no one on that team who I'd say keep at all costs. That's why I didn't cry much over losing Holmgren. The Hawks got some expending to do.
I hear Pete Carrol is all but a done deal. Fine. He's worth a try. Anything is better than what we've had the last few years. (A nice byproduct of that might be seeing USC pass the Huskies on the way down as the Huskies work their way up.)
In 2008, both teams were awful, pitiful, embarrassing. After that season the Mariners fired their GM, fired their manager, fired all their coaches and said, except for Felix and Ichiro, all the players are expendable. And so they started expending. Who's left from 2 years ago? Jose Lopez. Ryan Rowland-Smith. Anyone else? And the team is much better, even with pretty much starting from scratch. They're still not great, but they're not embarrassing and they're headed in the right direction.
The Seahawks don't even have Felix and Ichiro. There is no one on that team who I'd say keep at all costs. That's why I didn't cry much over losing Holmgren. The Hawks got some expending to do.
I hear Pete Carrol is all but a done deal. Fine. He's worth a try. Anything is better than what we've had the last few years. (A nice byproduct of that might be seeing USC pass the Huskies on the way down as the Huskies work their way up.)
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Hey look at it this way. It can't get much worse and it sure as hell can get alot better !!! Now all we have to do is get rid of the most over rated QB in football !! Can't wait for baseball !!!
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·Man I couldn't agree more...but i'm not sure if this guy is the answer either...would sure love to see them do a total dump....It's killed me the last few seasons seeing some decent QB's out there...good/great lineman, defensive as well...and they sit pat and hasslesuck (so as not to offend him?) or bring in some old washed up player with nothing to play for....
I will say this, thank god for the Mariners....Finally looks like they got the right people in there...and it's pretty cool seeing what's happening now
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Pete Carroll is a proven loser in the NFL. Hell, the Huskies beat him this year.
He is no better then Dennis Erickson.
The Seahawks were LOW CLASS in how they treated Mora. No coah deserves to go one and out.
At least he has 12 million bucks.
One note: they said they "relieved him of his duties", they did not "fire" him, nor have they dismissed the other coaches, as did Buffalo.
Alot depends on new GM and new Head Coach. They could bring Mora or some of his staff back in different roles.
The Seahawks biggest problem is: Tod Leiweke is not a football guy. Send him back to Vulcan.
just look, yesterday we signed "the seahawks best player" - the punter. what kind of expectation is that?
He is running everyone ouf town and turning us into a mirror image of the Raiders.
No team can win or complete a transition with a new coach every year.
Mora had a better record then Holmgren while using Ruskell players, almost same roster as last year.
One major thing i noticed this year on the roster is a lack of leadership. We have no real player leaders like we did when we went to the super bowl.
The only improvement is to go big time for: Gruden, Dungy or Cowher
my preference would be Gruden.
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He is no better then Dennis Erickson.
The Seahawks were LOW CLASS in how they treated Mora. No coah deserves to go one and out.
At least he has 12 million bucks.
One note: they said they "relieved him of his duties", they did not "fire" him, nor have they dismissed the other coaches, as did Buffalo.
Alot depends on new GM and new Head Coach. They could bring Mora or some of his staff back in different roles.
The Seahawks biggest problem is: Tod Leiweke is not a football guy. Send him back to Vulcan.
just look, yesterday we signed "the seahawks best player" - the punter. what kind of expectation is that?
He is running everyone ouf town and turning us into a mirror image of the Raiders.
No team can win or complete a transition with a new coach every year.
Mora had a better record then Holmgren while using Ruskell players, almost same roster as last year.
One major thing i noticed this year on the roster is a lack of leadership. We have no real player leaders like we did when we went to the super bowl.
The only improvement is to go big time for: Gruden, Dungy or Cowher
my preference would be Gruden.
JD
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Did not see that coming after only one year based on the commitment they put forth to get him here before Holmgren left. The head coach may not be to blame for the lack of on field performance by the players, but the head coach is ultimately responsible. Maybe it will be a good thing, but I hate to admit that Jason D is right on the money with his points on transition from coach to coach and going big time. Gruden, Dungy or Cowher would be interesting. I'd like to see Cowher nearly blowing a gasket and spitting all over everyone as he stomps up and down the sideline at Qwest Field. I'd pay to see that. Not so sure I want to see Pete Carroll try his hand at the NFL again.
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I could see letting the o-coordinator go, but I think Mora got a raw deal, lots of injuries and as was stated earlier the cupboard was pretty bare. Pete Carroll is older and wiser and will sorround himself with good people, I think he'll do fine. Wouldn't have been my first pick.This draft will tell part of the tale, I think they have 2 first round picks.
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Mumble's...I like your thinking iagree
I thought bringing Holmgrem back as GM and "Chucky" as coach would be a good combo... but Cowher might even be better. IMHO, P. Allen is going to have to simply bite the bullet, operate in the red for 2-3 seasons and subsidize the franchise back to contender status (he can certainly afford it).
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Looks like the seahawks are taking lessons from al davis on how to "run" a football team. Cowher would have been the best possible hire. Chucky is going to cleveland next year when his espn contract is up. Carroll is coming here because usc is about to get cornholed by the ncaa and probably wont be in a bowl game for a few years, so his run there is over. The seahawks are frantically trying to conduct sham interviews to comply with the rooney rule. This whole thing is a mess. It's a monkey fuc%ing a football.
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Pete Carroll was not all that bad in New England. Truth be told Parcels left him with an aging roster and following the tuna isn't the easiest thing to do. Pete's a smart guy and a better coach than Mora. I suspect Pete will be smart enough to realize that 7 step drops with an immobile quarterback and no left tackle are a bad idea. Mora was a disaster.
From what I remember he was a very aggressive defensive coach. He blitzed a bunch. Offensively he relied on trickery a bit to much for my liking.
At the end of the day he won't solve much quickly. The problem with the chickens is a supreme lack of talent. Other than their linebackers they don't have one group that is above average and several (both lines and DB's) that are signifigantly below average.
Go Pat.'s,
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From what I remember he was a very aggressive defensive coach. He blitzed a bunch. Offensively he relied on trickery a bit to much for my liking.
At the end of the day he won't solve much quickly. The problem with the chickens is a supreme lack of talent. Other than their linebackers they don't have one group that is above average and several (both lines and DB's) that are signifigantly below average.
Go Pat.'s,
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Carroll is too soft to coach in the NFL. Recruiting in LA with all the hot co-eds, foxy cheerleaders, Hollywood starlets, predacious cougars, TV coverage and adulation is a no-brainer. Getting guys to play in soggy gloomy Seattle and keeping them under control is quite another matter. Cowher would have been much better equipped to deal with it. My .02.
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Every one is looking for a scapegoat or an answer....the Hawks blow. They had one good run where people were jumping on the band wagon left and right and playing their fiddles ( which i was not on). I am starting to like the Hawks because there aren't so many bandwagons fans right now. But that being said...Hawks still suck. I hope they do get better, but its nice to now see who the loyal fans are!
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Just got to love a thread like this after a guy gets burned for posting a fishing report on a piece of skinny water. Yep a fishing forum that wastes a lot of print on non fishing stuff so no one will be offended!!!
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