[Chum83]

Was wondering whats the advantage of a scandi compact over the full scandi line ? Looking to get a scandi line for this summer so i was wondering whats the best choice really ?

 

[soundflycaster]

I have both Airflo regular scandi and compact. Both are very smooth casting lines. The compact is shorter and casts in less room more like a Skagit head but with the smoother turn over like the standard length scandi. Also the compact scadi is excelant when paired with switch rods from 10' to 11' in length.

 

[Chum83]

ya just lookin for something for my 7/8 dc 13'0 hopefully i figure something out hahahaha choices choices. Is the only big deal about the compact scadi is the fact that you can fish it right out of the box apposed to the longer scandi were you have to costom cut it to fine tune it to your rod ?

 

[soundflycaster]

The 13' 7/8 DC is a good rod and I don't think that you will need to cut the long scandi for that rod. Here are the line recommendations from Mike Kinney as to how he sets up that rod, notice that he shows grain weight and head length for the the Scandi:

Rod: TF 7/8 130 4 DC 450-700 gr.
Usage: (7/8 Wt. 4 pc. 13') Standard Puget Sound summer and winter wet and dry flies.
Lines: Skagit: 500/550 with tips to 200 grains
Rio Skagit 500/550, Airflo Skagit 7/8
Short Belly Spey with tips:
Airflo Delta Spey 7/8
Mid Length Spey with tips:
Airflo 7/8 Delta Long , Rio Power Spey 7/8, CND GP 7/8 or 8/9 for deep loading
Scandi:
450 to 500 grains <> Head length 32 to 34 feet

This rod will cast a wide range of lines and head lengths. As always it comes down to personal preference along with your casting style and ability. I know that for some people cutting a line or head is uncomfortable but making adjustments by cutting can be a good thing. I find that most lines out of the box that are in the grain rating window for the rod will work and that cutting is not needed. When I first got started over 20 years ago it was common to cut and splice to get the performance that we were after. Today we have so many choices that I don't do much cutting and splicing.

Good luck!

Thom

 

[Chum83]

wow great info that really helped me out narrow this out for me thanks a lot soundflycaster, cant wait to throw the scandi line out now for some summer runs thats for sure. i was thinking since i use a skagit compact 510 my scandi line i need to get should be about 480 gr i think, i was just worried i would have to do some cutting with the scandi long and if that was the case i might as well get the scandi compact cuz i think i would have butcherd the long scandi ha ha, but the price for the long scandi is pretty good, you can get it for 29.00 dollers now so u cant really beat that so i think im heading down that path.

 

[Chum83]

The airflo scandi shooting head is 41' long hmmmmmm thats longer then what mike kinney recomends for the dc i have, the things that make you go hmmmmmmmm, just saw that average rod length was 12'6 for the scandi shooting head so im pretty sure my rod could cast it just fine like you said in the first place lol

 

[SpeySpaz]

you'r right in the ballpark there for that rod.
I use a 490 gr Vision Ace, think it goes about 32-34 ft, casts like a spear. Also casts a 460 gr AFS and a 520, both OK but not as purrrrfect
don't forget your bottom hand eh?

I like a 12' poly+5' of tippet.

 

[Chum83]

couldnt find what the grain was for the regular airflo scandi shooting head, if u want to purchase it it just asked u what wieght your rod is and pick one the compact scandi gives you a grain chart lol oh well ill keep lookin for the chart.

 

[Red Shed]

Here are the weights for the Airflo scandi heads: 7/8-450grns-38', 8/9-500grns-40', 9/10-550grns-42', 10/11-600grns-44'

For the rod in question I think the Compact scandi is a better choice.

 

[Chum83]

Ya i was thinkin the compact scandi might be the key but im not gonna lie i liked the price on the other scandi 29.00 over 49.00 hahahaha but myabe ill just cough up the extra doe and get the compact lol i dont know will see.

 

[Red Shed]

Well you could always demo cast both of them and see which one best fits your rod/casting style/ability.

 

[Chum83]

would be nice but i just dont have any fly shop close enough for that so i always have to get stuck with what i buy, so far i have chosen right with my skagit copact 510 i can blast that bad boy with no effort, i love it a lot but now i want something for the summer conditions. I just followed with what was recomended to me for my rod and it worked. They said a scandi compact 480 gr would be a good start for my rod.

 

[Guest]

You should heed the advice you are given. The person offering advice could provide demo lines for you to try. Spey rods are sensitive to line selection and individual casting style/ability. If you have a pre-conceived notion of what you are going to do anyway, why waste people's time...

 

[Chum83]

i like to get a lot of opinions on the subject befor i do anything when it comes to getting new line, if i was set in my way i would have already orderd a new line by now so i dont think im wasting anyways ones time by any means or force anyone to answer this thread so..............but by the way i do appreciate everyones help on the subject i kinda got a idea on what i should get and what i should just leave on the shelf.

 

[DocDoc]

Poppy,
Can send you a couple of the compacts to find out what works best for you. You just missed a great opportunity to test almost any line you can think of at the Sandy Clave.

 

[Chum83]

Ya i want to make it out to one of those claves one of theys weekends, its just tough on the weekends is all but thats a good i dea i will contact poppy and see what happens thanks again

 

[Craig Schulz]

Drive over to Gig Harbor Fly Shop they most likely will let you try them before you buy, great group of guys. You can cast right in the harbor.

 

[Chum83]

thats another good idea as well i have been to that fly shope befor, next time im in there i will ask them as well if they got any demo scandi lines i could test out. great idea