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While I'm a gun and hunting enthusiast, I rarely post here. But, I thought some here might enjoy this thread.

I never guided hunters; only fly fishers. My retirement job is cooking for hunters about 16 weeks a year. This recent hunt was for spring brown bears in SE Alaska.

The hunters fly to the boat on a seaplane, stay, eat, and sleep on the boat. The guides launch skiffs to take them ashore to hunt. Most of the bears are taken just before dark, which is ~ 2130.

A few photos.

Water Sky Boat Vehicle Naval architecture
Water Sky Mountain Vehicle Seaplane
Water Boat Cloud Sky Vehicle
Terrestrial animal Grass Natural material Snout Groundcover
Plant Brown bear Tree Working animal Biome
Head Eyelash Jaw Feather Gesture
 

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Unlike the case of recent discussions surrounding the commercial hunting of lions in Africa, where the case could be made that the financial benefit to poor local communities had a positive impact on conservation, or even the case that could be made for hunting wolves in Idaho or Wyoming to minimize their impact to livestock or elk herds, there seems to be little justification for the killing of these magnificent animals.
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I'm pretty sure personally I'm on the fence about it, but it is very interesting seeing the photos!

Thanks for posting them with a little info about it. How do you measure a critter that size? Pounds? Feet? Mouth size? Where do those relate to a average sized brown bear?

Edit: Now that I think about it a lot of those questions/opinions could apply to carp fishing
 

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I'm not all all interested in debating this subject. I will say that since these giant bears are carefully managed by the Alaska wildlife folks, they are not in jeopardy population wise.

And Ill add this is why I dont post on this part of WFF.
I really enjoy your posts, and don't want to discourage you from putting stuff up. Having grown up in a hunting household, I'm not against it as a rule, but trophy hunting just doesn't sit well with me. To each their own.

Maybe I'll just go argue about global warming.......
 
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Holy Schmitt, some people kill & eat their own food, while I have never shot a bear of those size,I have eaten plenty of bear meat. Those steaks you buy in the store don't come from a cow that died of old age & magicaly appear on a styrofoam plate. Some people eat chicken, I shoot & eat grouse.
 

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Wow, those are big boys! Do they skin them and lug the skins to the boat? Even the pelts would be heavy, I'd think. What kind of rifles do they use? Do they just stalk them, or use carcasses for bait? There's a lot I don't know about Coastal Brown Bear hunting, but the results speak for themselves.

And, despite being a knee-jerk liberal, I have no issue with hunters doing their thing legally, as seems to be the case here.
 

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I'm not all all interested in debating this subject. I will say that since these giant bears are carefully managed by the Alaska wildlife folks, they are not in jeopardy population wise.
http://www.oregonwild.org/about/blog/last-grizzlies-oregon

Oregon used to have Grizzlies, as many plains states did..until all killed off.

Aren't the famous last words before an animal is hunted or fished into extinction into, "it was legal and there were plenty more...."?

One day, science will teach of a long extinct fish called the "Steelhead"...

Just food for thought-we cannot trust the wildlife department people, look at the state of our fisheries! YIKES!!
 

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And, despite being a knee-jerk liberal, I have no issue with hunters doing their thing legally, as seems to be the case here.
$10 bounties on legally killed California Grizzly exterminated them by the 1870's.

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/29/opinion/la-oe-klein-grizzly-20100929

Not trying to start a war, this is about about wrongs that are happening right now that the future population will see and wonder why no one stopped. Legal clearcut logging and strip mining come to mind.

Because it is legal does not make things right.
 

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Those boars (males to you bunny-huggers) kill cubs whenever they get a shot at them. Sows can get seriously injured in those interactions. Keep the boars at an advisable level, increase cub survival.

I'm not a bear hunter no matter whether it is a black, , grizzly or great brown bear. But these big bears are the only huntable dangerous game in North America and folks pay premium fees to hunt them. That is good for the economy.

Well managed bear populations are not in danger given the intensive focus biologists keep on them. There will still be lots of big beas for the non-consumptive outdoorperson to enjoy.
 

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And another clueless urban dweller lecture from someone who targets endangered and magnificent trout and steelhead

Again the proceeds from the sales of licenses go to help these predators.

The ignorance surrounding hunting and fishing on here is quite astounding

Back to the op

Great pics and thanks for sharing

Unlike the case of recent discussions surrounding the commercial hunting of lions in Africa, where the case could be made that the financial benefit to poor local communities had a positive impact on conservation, or even the case that could be made for hunting wolves in Idaho or Wyoming to minimize their impact to livestock or elk herds, there seems to be little justification for the killing of these magnificent animals.
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And another clueless urban dweller lecture from someone who targets endangered and magnificent trout and steelhead....

The ignorance surrounding hunting and fishing on here is quite astounding
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Yeah, you are so right. NOT.

Ignorance on here, you nailed it. I will add I see a lot of arrogance.

Clueless, man..or girl. If you only knew.

PS. Have only fished for headwater trout for years.
 
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