I used to catch huge bass right at the mouth of the river. They were everywhere.
Not to mention jobs, crops, commerce, water reserves . . .However if you want cheap hydro power then you want bass.
flood control too. I've caught bass in the Grand Ronde....Not to mention jobs, crops, commerce, water reserves . . .
Gene: Were the lakes you frequent for LMB once, strictly Trout Lakes?http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/or...f/2016/08/deschutes_steelhead_give_way_t.html
This is cause for concern. Bass invading the lower Deschutes is not good. Evidently the water temps have risen to a point where smallmouth (and at least one LMB) have felt very comfortable swimming up the river from the Columbia.
Considering smallies have pretty much well taken over the lower John Day, it is a real possibility that they could also move into the Deschutes and setup house keeping.
I'm not sure the bass will effect the redbands, the steelhead and salmon but I do find it ironic there is a bounty for Northern Pike Minnow in the Columbia because they evidently do effect the smolts and yet the NPM are a wild and native species in Washington and Oregon. The warmwater species in the system are not native yet there is no bounty on them!? WTF????
This situation may not end well for the trout, salmon and steelhead in the Deschutes.
Guess we'll find out.
I'd rather have free flowing cold running rivers than jobs, commerce and crops and flood control.Not to mention jobs, crops, commerce, water reserves . . .
There are no size or possession limits for Bass, Walleye & Catfish on the Columbia in this area, which from a personal preference perspective may be a blessing & certainly stands to decimate a trophy Walleye & Smallmouth fishery.They are not going to remove the dams nor do I expect them to.
Jim - thanks for you're common sense response to Rob's, I guess what I'd politely term, wishful thinking post. I too would love to see the Columbia as a wild and scenic river. But, as @GAT notes, we aren't going to remove the dams. These dams are economic life blood for the PNW, not only for wheat, but energy.We all have our druthers and there's nothing wrong with your personal preference, but there are associated significant impacts that are difficult to ignore inherent to realizing that vision. I, too would love to see a pristine North America as it was several hundred years ago - a wild & free land teeming with fish & game, a primitive Montana, ocean shorelines uncluttered with huge ports & bustling metro areas, chemical pollution, etc. - however that is impossible. Unfortunately, as westward expansion, population & technology progressed and America grew, things changed. As much as I love & respect the outdoors and dislike many changes that have occurred over the years, some things can not be so easily reversed.
They said that in the North Umpqua, BUT someone forgot to give the memo to the Smallies.Want to get rid of the bass you have to get rid of the dams bass do poorly in raging cold rivers.
Since they have begun spilling water at Bonneville the smallmouth of the lower Columbia have taken a huge hit.
However if you want cheap hydro power then you want bass.
I certainly hope so! I'm not exactly sure why they haven't investigated wave power more than they have.My niece was recently hired by PGE to work on a project to replace their dependence on coal with alternative sources
I too have spent a bit of times around a couple main stem Columbia River dams. I'm still waiting for the clean, reliable and renewable green energy that I can afford. Don't get me wrong, @troutpocket, I'm very much in favor of alternate sources. Heck, I wouldn't be opposed to nuke plant going up in Kittitas County, bad joke.As someone who spends time around big hydro dams, I can foresee a not too distant future when the cost of maintenance and/or replacement of the Columbia and Snake River dams may outweigh the benefits of keeping them around. Particularly if a new reliable and cheep energy source is developed. Dams like Bonneville and Rock Island are pushing 80 years old. Wear and tear on a chunk of concrete tasked with holding back a big river is very real. Aging infrastructure that was originally built up with big federal $$ is a problem all over the country. I won't guess at the costs of replacing a big hydro dam in present day $$$ but it's got to be astronomical. Didn't a new bridge at Rocky Ford recently cost north of $300K? Sticker shock, anyone?
In all honesty the Umpqua may rage from time to time but it's rarely coldThey said that in the North Umpqua, BUT someone forgot to give the memo to the Smallies.