Boaters/floaters...pay To Play On Public Waterways In Oregon

More money and more programs is not the answer to anything.

You want to leave your house and do something outside?

They will find a way to charge ya a fee.

a new nonmotorized boating program, what a crock of shit.

I have no problems with improving boat ramps but here is how it needs to work.

Two guys complain to each other about the condition of the ramp. They say, someone should fix it, hey why not us?
So they call the marine board and say hey we are gonna fix the ramp at do and so. The marine board says ok go for it here are the specs it needs to be built to.
The two guys get their buddies together to fix the ramp. Ramp fixed everyone is happy. The people who use it and care about it payed for it. All the government needs to do it get out of the way.

I guess air meters and pedometers are next. Hell, why don't they just clamp a GPS ankle bracelet on us like Charlie Sheen and send us a bill at the end of the month.....

Don't give them any ideas Ive. Better to just let them try to think for themselves.

This is simply a way for them to get more money out of your pocket, the ramps are already paid for with other taxes.......how come you keep voting for these guys, is this the way you want to live?

Two and one-half staff are going to cost upwards of $900,000 per year? I may come out of retirement!

Is Oregon really getting that Greedy.

Old Man said:

Is Oregon really getting that Greedy.

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They and WA are getting sick and tired of being outdone by Kalifornia.

This isn't the right way to do this.

On the other hand put-ins and take outs are heavily impacted and need to be maintained.

Can't have your cake and eat it.

Old Man said:

Is Oregon really getting that Greedy.

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Gotta pay for PERS somehow...

Ive is onto something...it's coming soon I'm afraid.

Guys, its $12/year. Go skiing at Meadows for a day with your family, then come back here and tell me how $12 isn't worth it to possibly improve a resource and keep these public places available for use.

Harden the fuck up.

I'd have no problem paying to help keep access to rivers. However, do you really trust that your fees are going directly to helping that access? If i read this part correctly:

"The Marine Board estimates that the fees would generate about $2.17 million over the next two years.

The proposal calls for two full-time employees and one part-timer, and the program would have a biennial cost of $1.87 million. The excess money, Massey said, would be available as grants."

Then it looks like vast majority of the money is just going to create a couple jobs. Are these positions in the field actually working on ramps or are they just office jobs? If I'm paying $12 so a couple guys can sit in an office and just manage the account then no, I'll keep my money thanks. Especially given the recent gill net moves...

GorgeTony said:

Guys, its $12/year. Go skiing at Meadows for a day with your family, then come back here and tell me how $12 isn't worth it to possibly improve a resource and keep these public places available for use.

Harden the fuck up.

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We are hardening against government that is outrageously overspending and overreaching.

We need to scale back government and do more for oursrlves.

Rob Allen said:

We are hardening against government that is outrageously overspending and overreaching.

We need to scale back government and do more for oursrlves.

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Complete and utter heresy... we are incapable of doing things for ourselves.

Has anyone here ever tried to drop a drift boat in at Hosmer Lake during the Plastic Hatch?

I have and would love it if the fee went to other boat ramps or better yet kept some of those kayaks at home.


Fun sometimes costs money.

So, evidently the Marine Board has decided that non motorized craft are doing great damage to the boat ramps so they need to start charging folks in inner tubes to float down the Willamette? What a load of crap! First it was motorized craft they hit up for money, then it was non-motorized craft over a certain length now it is any damned thing that floats!

What the hell are they doing with the funds when they keep needing more and more and more. Seems to me that they are starting to tread on river rights when they charge to float down a navigable river.

Once they create a fee for anything that floats, then what are they going to do when they claim they need more money? Attempt to charge hikers for looking at the rivers?

Penobscot said:

Has anyone here ever tried to drop a drift boat in at Hosmer Lake during the Plastic Hatch?

I have and would love it if the fee went to other boat ramps or better yet kept some of those kayaks at home.

Fun sometimes costs money.

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Although not in OR, I was thinking the same thing about the Yak... I wouldn't hate it at all if they charged a per boat/tube fee during the summer months. It would be 100% worth it to have accessible boat launches instead of ones littered with inner-tubes, air mattresses, and falling down drunks....