Whats the number for poaching hotline? PEOPLE hoping bushes every where at the mouth of the cedar in renton putting every fish in a bucket. Tired of this bs.
SHART
Cedar poachers
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1-800 477 6224
Its on your punch card, but not on the license itself where it woukld make more sense to put it, since not everyone carries a punch card. The one time I did call in a poaching complaint about people fishing under the I405 bridge out of season, the officer was there in 20 minutes. Turned out to be Muckleshoot tribal members so there was nothing he could do.
Its on your punch card, but not on the license itself where it woukld make more sense to put it, since not everyone carries a punch card. The one time I did call in a poaching complaint about people fishing under the I405 bridge out of season, the officer was there in 20 minutes. Turned out to be Muckleshoot tribal members so there was nothing he could do.
If I remember correctly from my "Eyes in the Woods" class, I believe that you can also call 911. If you state "in progress" it can shorten the response time.
If you're near a major highway call the WSP. They might respond faster if a trooper is nearby.
Oregon poachers.
One good thing about Oregon is the OSP responds to all game violation calls. Have had the occasion to test this out and the longest time from call to Officer on station was 15 minutes.
One good thing about Oregon is the OSP responds to all game violation calls. Have had the occasion to test this out and the longest time from call to Officer on station was 15 minutes.
What's the limit on asian men? Pretty sure they are CnR, but I don't think the regs say anything about a good whack across the snout first.
Speaking of poaching... I was out on the Cedar today and ran into Wendy (WDFW) for the first time. What a great gal, had a nice chat for a while. I mentioned that there are few signs specifying the regs and she said that she was just at the sign shop today contemplating what signs she needs - after stating my opinion on the matter she said she would check if there are any funds available to get more signs up on the Cedar.
Wendy also mentioned that she had just today busted a 16 y.o., some disrespectful p.o.s. that didn't think she was "a real cop" until she put her fake handcuffs on him and made him sit in the back of her fake truck for a bit to think about his actions and then returned him to his parents. Haha... poor bastard, hope he learned a lesson. The shitty part of the story is that said 16 y.o. had a couple fish in a bag - Wendy revived the 9 inch bow, but the 16 inch Cutt was too far gone. Ya, 16-inch cutt... what a fine fish
Grrrrr.
Yes, 911 is okay for reporting poaching, state that it is non-emergency and that you need the WSP dispatch to report a fish and wildlife violation. Wendy confirmed that indeed WDFW is on the same frequency as WSP dispatch - it is one and the same.
Wendy also mentioned that she had just today busted a 16 y.o., some disrespectful p.o.s. that didn't think she was "a real cop" until she put her fake handcuffs on him and made him sit in the back of her fake truck for a bit to think about his actions and then returned him to his parents. Haha... poor bastard, hope he learned a lesson. The shitty part of the story is that said 16 y.o. had a couple fish in a bag - Wendy revived the 9 inch bow, but the 16 inch Cutt was too far gone. Ya, 16-inch cutt... what a fine fish
Grrrrr.Yes, 911 is okay for reporting poaching, state that it is non-emergency and that you need the WSP dispatch to report a fish and wildlife violation. Wendy confirmed that indeed WDFW is on the same frequency as WSP dispatch - it is one and the same.
I got stopped by Wendy (WDFW) last fall on the Raging River. I had a good chat with her following....she seemed like a good officer from my contact with her too.
Stefan Elliott, I ask if you would spell out 'white men' snagging and poaching in salmon and steelhead rivers during open and closed seasons. When you point out an ethnic group (specifically Asian here) you spread stereotype and perpetuate ignorance. The truth is that the culprits of crime is committed across racial lines from car break-ins to white-collar. Lets be balance and fair when you single out any group. You may be well intended to address the need for enforcement but your statement discredits so many Americans of Asian decents who are law abiding sportsmen.
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I always point out the ethnicity of the person or group I'm currently railing against.
Stinkin Antarcticans and their isolationist attitudes!
I understand that we don't want to perpetuate stereotypes and that illegal actions can be done by anyone. But I have noticed that in my time of fishing for salmon off of docks in the Sound that there are some consistencies occurring that are tough to ignore. The game warden was called and I have not seen these people since. Having had a run in with the game warden myself where I was corrected on my interpretation of a rule I can attest to the power that has.
It is up to each one of us as enjoyers of the sport of fishing and as members of a common society to inform ourselves on the rules of the sport and to do what we can to educate others who may not be as informed. Education goes a great distance in helping the common good. Grant it, one would rather walk over and club some of these people but if we resist this urge one could see some positive effects. I hope my kids get to see a 50 pound king swim in the river or whales in the Sound but we have to work together to achieve that.
Good reading and have fun out there.
It is up to each one of us as enjoyers of the sport of fishing and as members of a common society to inform ourselves on the rules of the sport and to do what we can to educate others who may not be as informed. Education goes a great distance in helping the common good. Grant it, one would rather walk over and club some of these people but if we resist this urge one could see some positive effects. I hope my kids get to see a 50 pound king swim in the river or whales in the Sound but we have to work together to achieve that.
Good reading and have fun out there.
I've seen my fair share of poachers on the Cedar over the years since it reopened and guess what? They were all white, yep, every single one of em. Come to think of it, so were the poachers on the Naches... hm, and the Little D - wow, maybe I should form a stereotype here, cuz surely my experience must sum up the experiences of everyone else out there! Oh, and every single one of them appeared to be from that economic segment of the white population that has a derogatory name attached to it. Surely I'm onto something here! Oh, wait, maybe I'm not onto something, maybe this whole line of thinking is STUPID.
Spouting crap like that, whether you think "the stereotype is there for a reason" or not, is just not appropriate by which I mean is just F*CKED.
Spouting crap like that, whether you think "the stereotype is there for a reason" or not, is just not appropriate by which I mean is just F*CKED.
If they were Asian, he has every right to say it! He's not steriotyping, he's speaking the TRUTH. How do you PC guys breath with your head so far................
Sorry Speaker, wasn't directed at you, the man shouldn't be persecuted just for telling us what he saw. At what point are we afraid to say anything for fear of offending someone?
Thank God for Larry the Cable Guy, he offends everyone!
Thank God for Larry the Cable Guy, he offends everyone!
I've had an opportunity in the past to meet Stefan. He is a fine young man who at age 15 loves to fish and cares about our resources, as I hope all of us do. I don't believe he was attempting to stereotype anyone, more so just reporting what he witnessed.
In my recollection I've enjoyed Citori's posts. Clearly he jests, just not funny. Now, if WFF stood for white fly fishers it may have gotten a different reaction - oh but I wouldn't have been there to read it...
Hey, okay, speaking of race and flyfishing (ruh-roh raggy!)... I'm curious about this since flyfishing seems to be just like rock climbing in this regard:
** All the years I rock climbed I met only ONE black climber, and he wasn't some sport climber wearing spandex and crap and clipping bolts, he was a big wall climber tearing up multi-day severe El Capitan big wall routes...
** All the years I have fly fished I have met only ONE black flyfisherman, never had a chance to fish with him. My oldest son is also 50/50, and he became a flyfisher under my tutelage - guess that makes two if he comes back around to fishing after his teen years. The person I met was my GFs co-worker and quit before he had a chance to bum a ride on my boat (why do significant-others think us flyfishers want to take people fishing that we completely don't know? different topic...)
So the question to the group is: do you know any black flyfishers? If so REALLY??? How many? lol - kinda kidding with that last part, but I am very sincerely curious about this.
Hey, okay, speaking of race and flyfishing (ruh-roh raggy!)... I'm curious about this since flyfishing seems to be just like rock climbing in this regard:
** All the years I rock climbed I met only ONE black climber, and he wasn't some sport climber wearing spandex and crap and clipping bolts, he was a big wall climber tearing up multi-day severe El Capitan big wall routes...
** All the years I have fly fished I have met only ONE black flyfisherman, never had a chance to fish with him. My oldest son is also 50/50, and he became a flyfisher under my tutelage - guess that makes two if he comes back around to fishing after his teen years. The person I met was my GFs co-worker and quit before he had a chance to bum a ride on my boat (why do significant-others think us flyfishers want to take people fishing that we completely don't know? different topic...)
So the question to the group is: do you know any black flyfishers? If so REALLY??? How many? lol - kinda kidding with that last part, but I am very sincerely curious about this.
Who cares what race does or does not exhibit sportsmanlike behavior?
I have observed all races behaving badly at various locations, West Crest dock, Rattlesnake lake, Blue Creek, Lake Leonore and Rocky Ford.
50% of the rule breakers changed their behavior when I politely let them know the rules. I let the authorities take care of the other 50% if I was within cell range.
It makes me angry to see blatant rule breakers. I too get a stereotype in my head when I see people from a certain race or socio economic class, but I have to remind myself it is not the race, but the person who is breaking the law.
Is it a crime to mention race when describing the rule breaker, I think not. But my other question is this - is it necessary to mention race?
I have observed all races behaving badly at various locations, West Crest dock, Rattlesnake lake, Blue Creek, Lake Leonore and Rocky Ford.
50% of the rule breakers changed their behavior when I politely let them know the rules. I let the authorities take care of the other 50% if I was within cell range.
It makes me angry to see blatant rule breakers. I too get a stereotype in my head when I see people from a certain race or socio economic class, but I have to remind myself it is not the race, but the person who is breaking the law.
Is it a crime to mention race when describing the rule breaker, I think not. But my other question is this - is it necessary to mention race?
If you're trying to describe or ID a person and don't mention race or other identifiable attributes, that's like not mentioning something as obvious as, "the suspect has two noses."
Speaker, I've only ever known three black anglers who fly fish and am presently still acquainted and friends with two of them. I know more Asian fly fishermen than blacks, but I think Asians outnumber Blacks in the PNW population.
Sg
Speaker, I've only ever known three black anglers who fly fish and am presently still acquainted and friends with two of them. I know more Asian fly fishermen than blacks, but I think Asians outnumber Blacks in the PNW population.
Sg
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