[GAT]

Here's an idea I'm mess'n with. I took some SBS imagines I had on file and used them to make a clip. The patterns are not new. I'm wondering if a clip without instruction text (for the most part) is viable? Do you really need the instruction text? Probably not for experienced fly tiers... but I'm not sure.

Here's the experimental clip with three different patterns. I tossed it together fairly quickly. Let me know what you think about a SBS without instructional text. I'm sure it is handy for a beginner but does a SBS work without text or narration?

 

[ScottP]

does a SBS work without text or narration?

Gene,

Judging by the first 2 examples, I'd say yes; the tying steps were pretty self-explanatory. That may not apply in every case, though; some techniques aren't intuitive, especially to less experienced tyers. Nicely done.

Regards,
Scott

 

[GAT]

When I was writing the flytying column, I always wondering how much text I really needed to add. The photos are, as you say, self-explanatory... at least, again, for experienced fly tiers.

If I do any more flytying SBS, I think I'll go with the clip bit. Someone can always pause the clip if they want to look at a step for a longer period of time than it is shown.

I doubt if I'll ever go to making film clips instead of stills, I hate my voice on recordings...

 

[GAT]

Hmmm.... I can add a little text to the photos so I think I will. Stay tuned for the second attempt.

Never mind. Adding text was time consuming and a distraction for the photo. If I do a genuine SBS clip I may add text but will allow for the time required for reading the text with the photo.

 

[ScottP]

I doubt if I'll ever go to making film clips instead of stills, I hate my voice on recordings...

Too bad John Facenda is no longer with us.

Regards,
Scott

 

[GAT]

Well, I gave it a try with a pattern called the Santiam Special Stone. The advantage of the slide show configuration is that you can pause a frame for reference much easier than with a moving clip.

 

[hbmcc]

Umm ... Stay with images on a webpage, if you do stills. Like here. Every time a sequence is initiated in video, or elsewhere, I am gone, or swearing and skipping through. I control my own speed through a series.

If you can do it in less than 6 minutes (some of us are older than the current 3-minute attention span) shoot on your iPad. I sat next to a tyer who posted to YouTube ten minutes after shooting an SBS. Maybe, 16 minutes to 20 from start to post. Another tyer shot the video handheld. He simply displayed the material in packaging as he went. Mistakes, and background noise, included. He did not talk. He had a 1000 hits in about 3 hours.

The only issue was showing a graphic-business on his tee-shirt.

BTW, I created a Word doc from a YouTube-type SBS. You can pause video. I have a decent screen capture program. Just type away. .... Which reminds me.... What are all those abbreviations that Scott uses?

 

[Norm Frechette]

add a recipe slide of each fly. everybody doesnt know every material being used

make your slide show but add a voice over or make a video and then add the voice

a slide show with absolutely no explanation of what youre tying in or showing a particular technique is well....boring

 

[GAT]

Nah, I won't add a voice over. When I'm doing a SBS for one pattern... such as the Santiam Special Stone, it goes by quickly enough that I think the photos are self explanatory. I did add more floating text to describe the steps but no more than I thought was required. As a result, I think the format works. I include the completed fly and tying materials separate from the clip for easy reference.

Three at a time is indeed boring but that was an experiment. I think the format works as long as I limit the fly to one:

http://www.washingtonflyfishing.com/forum/threads/santiam-special-stone-sbs.117599/

 

[GAT]

Thanks for all your comments. To save space for my Vimeo account, I plan to delete the clip sometime in the near future. I like the format and am now using it for my SBS threads.