I will bucktail a yellow and white coho fly for salmon when on the sound. I learned this from my father before I ever used a flyrod. I used to use a salmon rod to do this I now use a flyrod so I can feel every head shake. My father would not allow hearing on the boat so Coho flies or plastic squid were all we used. On lakes I often troll a wooly bugger, emerger pattern, hares ear or other pattern behind my kayak. By changing my speed and direction often, I will catch fish most of the time this way. Most of the hits are during either a change in speed or direction. Since sitting in my kayak it is hard to make cast after cast. I troll most of the time only casting when I want to really work an area of the lake such as the shore line or lily pads or when using dry flies or when poping for bass. To me fly fishing is feeling the fishes every move through the rod without anything getting in the way such as weights, even lures have to much weight to feel the fish fully, and fooling the fish with a hook with fur and feathers all worked by hand. While I enjoy casting a fly with a fly rod, it is just to tiring for me to do when sitting low to the water. On rivers and streams its another matter. I can enjoy hours upon hours just casting the flyline without getting tired at all. I feel each of us must make their own choices on what fly fishing is and were we draw the line. The most important thing is to enjoy the water you are fishing and enjoy all the wild life around you from the fish you catch and hopefully release most of, to the birds and insects and larger wildlife you are surrounded by while fishing. Before I started fly fishing I never noticed the insect life all around me, now I can respect the full circle of life. To me this is what flyfishing is about. :HAPPY