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I have a chance to pick up an Echo Ion XL 690-4. I would principally use it from saltwater beaches. What do any of you seasoned fishermen think would be a good line for this rod?
 

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A couple of months ago I bought an 6 wt. Echo Ion from the local fly shop. I cast it in the parking lot with a Wulff Ambush 7 wt. floating line . It was a "cannon" as I could easily cast it as far as I needed to! Any of the lines which Stonefish recommended should work. But it would be even better to be able try out which lines suit your casting style. You might considered over lining it with a 7 wt. line which has worked for me.

I fish out of a boat and sometime use the 6 wt. Echo Ion with a 7wt. Rio In-Touch full sinking line. Again it was "cannon".

It is a great fly rod for the money.

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I've used a 7 weight streamer express with mine & it works well. I just bought a 6 weight outbound short & I'm pleased with that performance as well.
 

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I would like to say a few things about Rio Outbound. I was fishing for Coho in Alaska with on other forum member, we both had a Rio Outbound short intermediate his was the clear and mine was the gray we were fishing from different boats in very clear saltwater. He told me that he had casted to a school and saw the fish turn away from his line when the swam up to in, the next day I had the same thing happen with the gray line. I changed reels over to one with a Airflo cold water Intermediate line which they call clear but it is a light blue. After many cast the slivers never turned away from the Airflo line. Oh ya and they never too my fly either. I don't have any dog in this fight but just passing along what I saw.
 

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The Rio Coastal Quickshooter will be out shortly.
That line should help fill the void of the OB no longer offering a clear head.
Hopefully it is more durable then the OBS, which just don't seem to last very long based on my experience.
SF

RIO's new Coastal QuickShooter features a clear intermediate head specifically designed for anglers fishing off the coast in cooler conditions. The short front taper has no problem turning over large baitfish and shrimp patterns in typical coastal winds, and the short, easy-casting head helps load the rod quickly at close range. Available in WF5I-WF8I. In addition, a powerful Coastal QuickShooter XP (Extra Powerful) version with a heavily weighted head, and an aggressive front taper is perfect for casting large flies, and ideal for the striped bass angler. This line is available in WF8I-WF10I sizes, and all lines are available August 2016 for $79.95.
 

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View attachment 121680 We could also be getting a new option from Airflo.... Haven't heard anything about the specs for this line, hopefully it will have a short clear head.
Nice, it can't be any worse then some of the colors they offer on some of their current lines.
I hope it has a clear head with braid core running line as I really like the durability of their lines.
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Maybe I am missing something here but when I looked at Rio's site, they do not have the weight of the head for the Coastal Quickshooter (and the XP too).
They do have the weight for outbound short and all and I've found that the weight is very useful when I am lining up a fast/quick fly rod.
I too like the Airflo lines and I too am interested in their specs.
 

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The Rio Coastal Quickshooter will be out shortly.
That line should help fill the void of the OB no longer offering a clear head.
Hopefully it is more durable then the OBS, which just don't seem to last very long based on my experience.
SF

RIO's new Coastal QuickShooter features a clear intermediate head specifically designed for anglers fishing off the coast in cooler conditions. The short front taper has no problem turning over large baitfish and shrimp patterns in typical coastal winds, and the short, easy-casting head helps load the rod quickly at close range. Available in WF5I-WF8I. In addition, a powerful Coastal QuickShooter XP (Extra Powerful) version with a heavily weighted head, and an aggressive front taper is perfect for casting large flies, and ideal for the striped bass angler. This line is available in WF8I-WF10I sizes, and all lines are available August 2016 for $79.95.
I'm new to fly fishing but not to chasing SRCs. Do you guys normally "go up" a line weight? For example: I have a Loop Evotec CAST 590-4MF that I want to use for SRCs. I fish from a boat 90% of the time. Would you suggest matching it with a WF5I or going up to a WF6I?
 

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I just picked up a Airflo 40+extreme wf9I NIB, for a good price, it came with no welded loops?, but I was able to weld both ends very easily. I spooled it up and did a few lawn casts with my Xi2 8wt. All I can say is WOW.
 

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I'm new to fly fishing but not to chasing SRCs. Do you guys normally "go up" a line weight? For example: I have a Loop Evotec CAST 590-4MF that I want to use for SRCs. I fish from a boat 90% of the time. Would you suggest matching it with a WF5I or going up to a WF6I?
Cozmo,
I don't familiar with the Loop rod you are using and you didn't mention which intermediate line you were considering.
That being said, I'm generally a person that likes to upline their rods by at least one line weight. (Sorry OMJ ;))

I use a Sage XP 697-4 for nearly all of my beach fishing and have been throwing a 6 wt OBS on it. That line has a head wt of 235g, so it is really equivalent to a 9 wt line in head weight. Going up 2-3 head weights with the current flock of integrated shooting heads seems is pretty common for the folks I generally fish the salt with.
I think you'd be fine with either a 5I or 6I depending on the line.
Hope this helps,
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View attachment 121680 We could also be getting a new option from Airflo.... Haven't heard anything about the specs for this line, hopefully it will have a short clear head.
interesting...even though they already have the 40+, sniper, streamer express, etc that work exceptionally well in the surf. I wonder how much (if any) this will differ, or if it will be essentially the same as one of those. I just know that for my surf fishing I have a couple requirements, and that's it...load fast, shoot far, get down fast....If I fished stripers in the surf I'd add in turnover big flies.
 

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interesting...even though they already have the 40+, sniper, streamer express, etc that work exceptionally well in the surf. I wonder how much (if any) this will differ, or if it will be essentially the same as one of those.
Randall,
I think what everyone is hoping for is that line will offer a clear head, which the others you mentioned don't have. In my opinion, that is something Airflo has been sorely lacking since they discontinued the old 40+.
The new braided core line technology killed the clear head, but it sounds like Rio figured out a way to offer it again with the Coastal Quickshooter. Hopefully Airflo has as well.
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Randall,
I think what everyone is hoping for is that line will offer a clear head, which the others you mentioned don't have. In my opinion, that is something Airflo has been sorely lacking since they discontinued the old 40+.
The new braided core line technology killed the clear head, but it sounds like Rio figured out a way to offer it again with the Coastal Quickshooter. Hopefully Airflo has as well.
SF
true, I probably should have specified my use vs. many (but not all) here (i.e. actual surf vs. PS beaches) in which case, having a clear head is moot.

The times I do make it up there and fish, I just use a Barrio fast intermediate...seems to work quite well (it's kinda a clearish brown). I went that route once my OBS fell apart as it cost about half of what the OBS did. It's held up far better than I figured it would.
 

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I don't understand Airflo or even Rio with their new non-clear head. I get that the core won't be clear with braid, but why then add colored line over that? A white, light green, light blue, light brown, etc braided core with a clear head over it would still be way better. I think the 40+ is like neon green core...maybe a clear head over that but I can't remember. Maybe it doesn't matter, but I would have no confidence in a non-clear head with a 4-6' leader off our beaches. The 40+ does shoot like crazy though! The running line shoots way better than the Rio, but I found it hard to hold on to while hauling/shooting with cold wet hands when I tried it.
 

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Matt,
I agree with you regarding the clear head. I have no confidence in the lines with non clear heads for beach fishing, especially after fishing the new 40+ with a opaque green head.
Combine that green head with a bright orange running line and you've got one of the oddest color combos not to mention ugliest intermediate lines on the market.
I'd much rather have a light gray braid core running through a clear head.
If line companies can change line colors multiple times over the length of a line you'd certainly think they could figure out how make 30-35' of core material less visible.
SF
 
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