I think I made a good buy today. I have been considering either an Griffin Odessey Spider or a Danvise. Today while looking at a spider, I got a Griffin Odessey Plus at Wholesale Sportsman for $69, lower than retail on the Spider or Danvise. Love it so far. Since I am just beginning (again) figure it will last me many years. Of course my granddaughter is already eyeing it...