I'd like to HIGHLY endorse both of those rods. Mine are collecting dust as I rarely use graphite any more, but I'll never sell them as they are the closest thing to fast glass in carbon fiber, great for travel, cheap, and an absolute blast on trout of any size. The only rod in the series that to me was a little clunky was the 9' 6 wt. and that one I sold, although it's still a good all around stick.