I have these two reels in as new/mint. They have been used a couple of times on my spey rod/ fresh water, river fishing only. Black. Both include the case, orig box and paperwork. These are very tough salt water reels with the same carbon fiber drag they are using now in the lt. Your choice, $280 each shipped in USA. photos comming soon... They are not the LT reels, yes they are a little heavy but that makes them GREAT for a spey rod!