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Salty 5 weights....

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Looking to explore the beaches around me up here in bc, looking to get into a new 5 weight set up.

Just wondering what everyone is using...

I've been keeping am eye open for a 589 xi3 but I think they are like hens teeth =)

Jon
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Try a Teeny TFO 5wt. Comes with a fighting butt. I think you can still get them on Jim Teeny's website. Mems.
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Never mind, Teeny doesn't have the rods anymore. Try a TFO TiCR X 5wt rod. They are very strong fish fighting rods.
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I would and have felt under equipped when using a 5 weight in the salt.
I think a 6 or 7 weight would be a better choice.

Dave
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We don't have resident salmon up my way (north of the border) and cutties are few and far between as it is. I think a fast action 5 weight would be perfect for my applications.

So yes, I understand a lot of people use 6 or 7 weights due to wind and coho or springs etc, but I'm looking at a 5 weight for now.

Jon
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Fast action 5wts with fighting buts seem to be a rare breed. A few that would be on my list: Sage Xi3, Sage Salt, Redington Predator. I'm sure there are more, but that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I have a 5wt TFO BVK (no fighting but) with salt-ready reel seat that would be a decent option, and I have used it in he past. Really, any fast (or med-fast) action 5wt will do fine if you make sure to rinse it off good after each use.

I still prefer a 6wt and then you have a lot more options. A 14" SRC doesn't feel any bigger on a 5wt than a 6wt IMO. It's more about comfortably casting heavy flies long distances in the wind. 6wt > 5wt for that purpose.
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I agree with the post above this 100%
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If cost is a concern I would look real hard at the new Predator if you can find one
They seem to be extremely popular and last I heard Redington was back ordered on some of them.
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I like my Tenny 5wt when I am fishing sheltered bays.

St Croix bank robber 5wt is salt safe I think, but not really a fighting butt
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Epic 686 glass, built for SW. Throws the typical 6wt lines and more fun than any graphite with a fish on. However, on the rare occasion it's blowing out there, a moderate action 7wt (graphite) is handy. Had a Xi3 for awhile and didn't like it.
We don't have resident salmon up my way (north of the border) and cutties are few and far between as it is. I think a fast action 5 weight would be perfect for my applications.

So yes, I understand a lot of people use 6 or 7 weights due to wind and coho or springs etc, but I'm looking at a 5 weight for now.

Jon
I use the same 5 wt/floating line setup for beach fishing that I do for summer stream/river fishing. I will concede that a 6 wt. would be helpful on windy days, but nothing beats the versatility of a 5 wt. I've only gotten into a few fish big enough to make me wish I had a heavier line. I use 0x leader and tippet and never have an issue.

As for specific brands, I use a 9' 5wt Cabela's RLS+ that I bought almost two years ago the day after I went fly fishing for the first time. $130 for the rod, reel, and floating line. I haven't had to replace anything yet and I average 75-100 days on the water every year. That said, I just noticed a crack in the fly line last weekend (still not bad for the amount of time I got out of it). I would also recommend looking at Echo - their stuff is pretty affordable and they have a no-questions-asked replacement plan if you break anything.
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I use the same 5 wt/floating line setup for beach fishing that I do for summer stream/river fishing. I will concede that a 6 wt. would be helpful on windy days, but nothing beats the versatility of a 5 wt. I've only gotten into a few fish big enough to make me wish I had a heavier line. I use 0x leader and tippet and never have an issue.

As for specific brands, I use a 9' 5wt Cabela's RLS+ that I bought almost two years ago the day after I went fly fishing for the first time. $130 for the rod, reel, and floating line. I haven't had to replace anything yet and I average 75-100 days on the water every year. That said, I just noticed a crack in the fly line last weekend (still not bad for the amount of time I got out of it). I would also recommend looking at Echo - their stuff is pretty affordable and they have a no-questions-asked replacement plan if you break anything.
Not to be argumentative but since you admit that a 6 weight is better off in the wind, wouldn't a 6 weight actually beat a 5 for versatility?
Not to be argumentative but since you admit that a 6 weight is better off in the wind, wouldn't a 6 weight actually beat a 5 for versatility?
Not for me. June through August I spent 99.9% of my time on the Cedar where a 6 wt. would be overkill. If/when my budget allows, I do plan to get a 6 wt. for my saltwater stuff, but for now I'm able to do all my fishing (small to medium sized rivers and beach fishing for rezzies and SRC) with the same rod/reel/line.

And to clarify - on most windy days, the 5 wt. is fine. It's only when I run into 10+ mph sustained winds that I start wishing I had something heavier. Most of the beaches I fish consistently are sheltered enough that I don't run into that too much.
If cost is a concern I would look real hard at the new Predator if you can find one
They seem to be extremely popular and last I heard Redington was back ordered on some of them.
I'd like to wait and see about the durability issues on this rod. They should have sold their Link rod and Rise reels in 3 packs. But their warranty is so good.... sound familiar?
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Not to be argumentative but since you admit that a 6 weight is better off in the wind, wouldn't a 6 weight actually beat a 5 for versatility?
It's hard to beat a 6wt IMO for all around fly fishing versatility (even if a 5wt is considered best for all around freshwater trout fishing). You can still use it for small dry flies for freshwater trout, SRC, salmon, warm water, wind, streamers, double nymph rigs, etc. Around here it would be hard to suggest a better all-around rod if you can only have one. What kind of fun is that though!? There's a reason I have a 3wt, two 4wts, two 5wts, three 6wts, two 7wts (one switch), and two 8wts. haha
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I'd like to wait and see about the durability issues on this rod. They should have sold their Link rod and Rise reels in 3 packs. But their warranty is so good.... sound familiar?
Couldn't disagree more
There is not a rod I have abused harder than my Link 890. I've never found any Redington rods to be fragile in the least. I've seen some RS4 and CPS rods take an enormous beating as well.
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It's hard to beat a 6wt IMO for all around fly fishing versatility (even if a 5wt is considered best for all around freshwater trout fishing). You can still use it for small dry flies for freshwater trout, SRC, salmon, warm water, wind, streamers, double nymph rigs, etc. Around here it would be hard to suggest a better all-around rod if you can only have one. What kind of fun is that though!? There's a reason I have a 3wt, two 4wts, two 5wts, three 6wts, two 7wts (one switch), and two 8wts. haha
Modern 6 weights are the new 5 weight as far as versatile goes. In fact, if I didn't have a 590 z axis I would get by with a 4wt and 6wt just fine.
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Modern 6 weights are the new 5 weight as far as versatile goes.
Especially up here in the PNW. But given the popularity of big streamers (and stonefly flies) in some of the troutlandia parts of the country, I can see why they are popular elsewhere as well.
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I'd like to wait and see about the durability issues on this rod. They should have sold their Link rod and Rise reels in 3 packs. But their warranty is so good.... sound familiar?
I didn't get the impression (admittedly from a wiggle test) that the Predator is one of the ultra light fragile tip rods (CPS). It's not really apples to apples with the line though. When I buy a specialty Rio line it's the top end fly line...you can't buy a "higher end" one. Redington is a budget brand, and with that I can forgive a certain amount of performance, durability, and quality shortcomings - you get what you pay for. You really think a top-end Rio line should only last a few months before it starts cracking and ultimately breaks? Come on man.
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