[speyday]

what types of casts are you having success with to get them out of the water and back out without a roll-up cast?

 

[KerryS]

double spey

 

[Craig Schulz]

Agreed, T14 in a 10' range is not a problem

 

[segge]

I was on the OP this weekend chasing silvers ... ended up changing tactics and used an S4 sinking scandi line on my Winston 7133 ... initially could handle it but had to switch cast it up to the surface ... then I stuck on a 10 foot extra fast sinking poly leader inbetween the head and the leader/fly combo ... it turned into too long of a sinking line for me to try to single spey ... and a double spey worked well. With sinking lines there is less of a margin for error. Anchor placement has to be right on ... and a nice slow high lift on the start ... Using sinking lines is a bit of work but it will make you a better caster.
I will admit I gave up after a while as a skagit head was so much more enjoyable to cast ... and gave me the same results.

Steve

 

[speyday]

Thanks, just gotta keep tweeking!

(And im referring to a sinking fly line, not any sort of sinking tip or poly leader attached to something that floats.)

 

[KerryS]

Another cast that works well with heads is the perry poke.

 

[flybill]

It's all about the lift.. start with the rod tip right at or in the water and lift to get the sinktip up near the surface. I personally like the Snap T, but Kerry is right the double will work. Circle cast is good as well, but the lift is key. If you do your lift and there's too much slack to get the sinktip up and out of the water, a Perry Poke is a great cast to do and then right into your single spey.

Good luck!

 

[fredaevans]

Another cast that works well with heads is the perry poke.

What he said. Slow lift then into the "Poke." Actually that was the original idea of it's use on this side of the Pond. The idea of the cast has actually been around for many, many years in the UK.
fae