Les Johnson! I assume you are the same Les Johnson that wrote the book on Sea Run Cuts. What a great pleasure to have you join the forum. I had the opportunity to run into you on the Stilly, and by coincidence I had just purchased your book. You were very helpful and you gave me two of your reverse spiders. I still have them as templates and I have tied up many of them. I will look forward to seeing your comments on the Forum.