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Anyone notice the scratch marks on the gill plates of the larger searuns you catch?
Some fish are really scratched up while others have just a few. I've caught a few that have some very fresh open gashes on their gill plates.
I assume this is from chasing prey amongst the barnacles and oysters. I've also seen this on a lot of larger blackmouth.
I find the battles scars another intriguing feature on these cool fish.
SF

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Love those battle scars. maybe even rooting around on the bottom, scouring food? like blackmouth after sand lance.
It would be fun to know the full story of some of those old warriors!

Curt

The ones I got this morning must have been all pretty boys..."Not the face! Not the face!" They would say before any potential confrontations :)
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Maybe from digging out redds in nearby steam beds??

Thinking that the barnacle theory probably makes the most sense to me... tight lines....
Sweet Brian
Looks like the bottom one ate at the surface
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The ones I got this morning must have been all pretty boys..."Not the face! Not the face!" They would say before any potential confrontations :)
Quite certain I saw you land that fish! Didn't make the connection until later...Landed a few there after you left, nothing as nice as the one you had.
No shit? See how courteous I was for swapping and letting you fish the better side? Started feeling sorry for your fishless effort over there haha
And why the hell didn't you come over to take a pic for me? You asked and I said yeah. Black Tundra was your rig right?
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No shit? See how courteous I was for swapping and letting you fish the better side? Started feeling sorry for your fishless effort over there haha
And why the hell didn't you come over to take a pic for me? You asked and I said yeah. Black Tundra was your rig right?
Fuck man, I thought you said I got it. Was hard to hear you over my jealousy.

My rig is Dark Grey, and it has a name. The Tachroma™.

Don't feel bad though, I landed this legit 23" hog about 3 minutes after you walked off the beach:

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Fuck man, I thought you said I got it. Was hard to hear you over my jealousy.

My rig is Dark Grey, and it has a name. The Tachroma.
Tachroma haha nice!
No wonder I had a feeling I was in the presence of greatness, could have had my Quickshooter line autographed.
Tell me, were you impressed with my casting? Nah it's all in the line:)
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Tachroma haha nice!
No wonder I had a feeling I was in the presence of greatness, could have had my Quickshooter line autographed.
Tell me, were you impressed with my casting? Nah it's all in the line:)
Casting a 5 weight with that wind sucked. The weather got nasty for a bit after you left. Couldn't see across the bay in the downpour. You throw to the right and could hit your backing. Throw to the left, 50 ft pile.

I've been using that line too, its pretty nice. Single hand spey casts very well, much more efficient at high tide at that beach.
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Regarding the scratches on the gill plates, I think they are caused by your leader when fighting the fish. A 'wrapped' coho ends up up with similar discoloration.
Regarding the scratches on the gill plates, I think they are caused by your leader when fighting the fish. A 'wrapped' coho ends up up with similar discoloration.
Nope, don't think so.
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Damn, had I known there would be a Lou sighting I would have actually accepted Gman's invitation to fish yesterday! ;)

Nothing about those pictures makes me think they were somehow damaged by leader.

Makes me admire how hearty these fish are. I think the scars add a ton of character and make the fish look even cooler
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Damn, had I known there would be a Lou sighting I would have actually accepted Gman's invitation to fish yesterday! ;)

Nothing about those pictures makes me think they were somehow damaged by leader.

Makes me admire how hearty these fish are. I think the scars add a ton of character and make the fish look even cooler
Haha I'm afraid that beach would have to renamed to Handsome beach if all 3 of us were there.
Are you done with the charter now Nick? I'll text you next time I head out in your vicinity!
I have also seen plenty of SRC with scratches on their gill plates. I have always assumed they were from rummaging around in the barnacles and oyster beds for grub.

Here is one fish with some scratches that are obviously at the wrong angles to be caused by the leader. This fish was hooked on the other side of its mouth.

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What I always feel really bad about is when the fish has tried to remove the hook during the fight by scraping their face on the bottom. I have only seen this type of damage on beaches with large oyster beds. The wounds are obviously fresh. Really bums me out.

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The only time I have seen leader marks was when fishing for tuna this summer.

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Haha I'm afraid that beach would have to renamed to Handsome beach if all 3 of us were there.
Are you done with the charter now Nick? I'll text you next time I head out in your vicinity!
Yessir all wrapped up for the season. I'm home and slowly getting back to normal so I've been busy but for sure hit me up I'll come wet a line with ya
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Nice seeing those fatty mcfatties! I need to get out after some sea runs soon!! Thanks for the inspiration and I'll take a pic of any seasoned faces if I find any.
What I always feel really bad about is when the fish has tried to remove the hook during the fight by scraping their face on the bottom. I have only seen this type of damage on beaches with large oyster beds. The wounds are obviously fresh. Really bums me out.
I think it's just as likely those marks are just fresh marks from the fish's recent foraging. Nothing to feel bad about.

I've always chalked the gill plate scrapes up to sandlance feeding, just like with chinook. I've seen cutthroat regurgitate sandlance more often than anything else in the areas I fish.

Beyond the face marks I caught one fish a few years back that was scarred all over and missing at least one fin. Was a decent fish, around 16'' or so. Would've loved to have known what he'd been through.
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I vote this, topic of the year ! Love it. Battle-scared faces of amazing creatures that tangle with the best the saltwater has to offer.
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