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When will Costco come out with Kirkland signature waders?

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#1 ·
Maybe a partnership with Orvis, or Simms? Since it appears that this product is almost an exact match of the Patagonia Down Sweater with a few slight changes, no DWR, 22 versus 20 Denier fabrics. Both are made in Vietnam, but have iron clad guarantees, 1 supports the environment with a percentage back, but then again, one is $200 and the other is about 2/3rds less at $70.

I was curious to see the quality as I have a few Patagucci items and have been for the most part happy with their products, so decided to give it a try and pretty happy with it so far. Lightweight, great layering for warmth. Some of my favorite sunglasses are their Kirkland Signature polarized ($40) which are made in Italy and I swear are the same as my Maui Jim Makaha. I'm pretty sure they license under Grey Goose for their french Vodka among many other items. Who knows whats next? Signature fly rods and reels?

http://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature™-Dark-Steel-Grey-Men's-Down-Jacket.product.100000064.html

http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-down-sweater-jacket?p=84673-0-961
 
#11 ·
Don't know about waders, but I'm pretty sure I saw a "Kirkland Signature Bong" the other day while walking through the store.

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Since the MJ bill passed they'll be selling Kirkland Signature Bud in the convenient 40 oz. Family fun size, afterwards you can get a $1.50 polish dog and berry sundae to satisfy the munchies
 
#12 ·
Maybe a partnership with Orvis, or Simms? Since it appears that this product is almost an exact match of the Patagonia Down Sweater with a few slight changes, no DWR, 22 versus 20 Denier fabrics. Both are made in Vietnam, but have iron clad guarantees, 1 supports the environment with a percentage back, but then again, one is $200 and the other is about 2/3rds less at $70.

I was curious to see the quality as I have a few Patagucci items and have been for the most part happy with their products, so decided to give it a try and pretty happy with it so far. Lightweight, great layering for warmth. Some of my favorite sunglasses are their Kirkland Signature polarized ($40) which are made in Italy and I swear are the same as my Maui Jim Makaha. I'm pretty sure they license under Grey Goose for their french Vodka among many other items. Who knows whats next? Signature fly rods and reels?

http://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature™-Dark-Steel-Grey-Men's-Down-Jacket.product.100000064.html

http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-down-sweater-jacket?p=84673-0-961
I have the Pata down sweater and was checking out the Costco version yesterday. The biggest additional feature mine has is a hood, which has extended my fishing days November-March. I haven't found a hat yet that can insulate like a down hood. Otherwise, the Kirkland coat seems decent for the price. Of course, I got my down sweater at 50% off through the Patagonia web specials website so I don't think I overpaid in the slightest.

That's a hot tip on Kirkland polarized glasses! I'll be checking those out.
 
#14 ·
I own the Patagonia Nano Puff with the hood. Great product that keeps you nice and warm.
I'll have to check out the Costco jackets next time there. Thanks for the tip.
 
#16 ·
Maybe a partnership with Orvis, or Simms? Since it appears that this product is almost an exact match of the Patagonia Down Sweater with a few slight changes, no DWR, 22 versus 20 Denier fabrics. Both are made in Vietnam, but have iron clad guarantees, 1 supports the environment with a percentage back, but then again, one is $200 and the other is about 2/3rds less at $70.

I was curious to see the quality as I have a few Patagucci items and have been for the most part happy with their products, so decided to give it a try and pretty happy with it so far. Lightweight, great layering for warmth. Some of my favorite sunglasses are their Kirkland Signature polarized ($40) which are made in Italy and I swear are the same as my Maui Jim Makaha. I'm pretty sure they license under Grey Goose for their french Vodka among many other items. Who knows whats next? Signature fly rods and reels?

http://www.costco.com/Kirkland-Signature™-Dark-Steel-Grey-Men's-Down-Jacket.product.100000064.html

http://www.patagonia.com/us/product/mens-down-sweater-jacket?p=84673-0-961
Nice looking Jacket. Just be sure to stay dry. Down losses almost all of its insulative properties when wet. I always wear synthetics on the river but thats just my .02 cents.
 
#20 ·
Any issues with the down coming out of the shell? I'm allergic to goose down. I sneeze like none other when I get into contact with that stuff. Had to change all my bedding, etc away from down.

For the money though, it's intriguing.
 
#21 ·
Any issues with the down coming out of the shell? I'm allergic to goose down. Sneeze like a mother f------ when I get into contact with that stuff. Had to change all my bedding, etc away from down.

For the money though, it's intriguing.
If there was, I wouldn't be using it. I have several Patagonia down products, and I cannot notice a difference between this apart from the lining and the lack of self storing pocket or carabiner clip. I kind of like the lack of logo.
 
#22 ·
I work for Costco and you can't buy advertising like this. FYI, Costco only develops a private-label item if:
• They can offer it for at least 20 percent less
• They can build it to meet or exceed the leading brand in the market
Unfortunately, whoever was saying that more people wear warm jackets than waders is on the money. They try to develop Kirkland Signature products that will force competitors to bring their prices down to more reasonable levels. That's why they develop a product in the first place, because they can do it just as well or better and still offer it a 20 to 60 percent savings.

I'm going to suggest the waders though. If they offered them online, they'd do pretty well with that kind of item.
 
#26 ·
Kirkland Signature items aren't diverted. Diverted items are branded products that companies, including Costco, buy at huge discount and resell in their stores. Kirkland Signature items are developed either via a partnership with a top-brand or developed by Costco. Costco essentially recreates an certain item, such as a down jacket, to top brands' standards. I think the world of Patagonia. I like Yvonne Chionard's business practices and take on many things in his business. However, I'd probably buy the KS jacket and save myself some coin.
 
#33 ·
Pretty sure this jacket is going to become synonymous with, 'I am a member of WFF' since I just picked one up also.
Just bought mine, very tempted, but this thread set me over the edge and I can tell you now that I love it. Very very insulating and I could feel an immediate change in temp when I would take it off.
 
#41 ·
Maybe I should buy one more and keep it in the closet if this one fails. I can return it for a full refund. I own 9 different Patagonia soft shells, down, fleece jacket, with one jacket that is pushing 20+ years of service that I've had into repair for a defective zipper, it keeps on ticking. Ive also got three paits of Guidwater waders and rotate between an SST and Orvis wading jacket. I rotate jackets as they are fashion pieces but I get bored of wearing the same thing all the time. True Costco isn't in the clothing business and may not have this product next season but from what I can see, the quality is there and the product should serve me well for at least the next decade and beyond of honest use. Btw... I am not a Costco employee or affiliated with them in any way including a share or stockholder. I think their signature products are decent and worth merit and was simply passing along my findings to other members. I am in no way putting Patagonia or Mr. Choinard down in any way whatsoever. I think it's a great company with great products. But why do you think the term 'Patagucci' came about? I don't need a label to tell me that my outerwear is superior to everything out there. We have a choice and as long as the company treats its employees well, and has ethical business practices unlike the Wal-marts of the world I don't see any harm with supporting its products, but that's just my opinion. I bought this piece to be a thin and light base layer to be worn over Capilene and under the waders for winter steelhead fishing. It has enough range of motion for casting and is so light I sometimes forget its on.
 
#49 ·
Costco and Patagonia don't really "make" anything. They market and distribute products.
Most of the outdoor gear you see for sale that is made in China (or Korea) is made in a relatively small set of factories.
one easy way to think about what you're seeing is the packaged food industry - very few factories out there canning food, and S&W canned peaches are made in the same facilities as Western Family and Trader Joes and Krogers, etc, etc, etc...
 
#50 ·
very few factories out there canning food, and S&W canned peaches are made in the same facilities as Western Family and Trader Joes and Krogers, etc, etc, etc...
That's the key point (for food at least). I used to work for a food sales company and was surprised to find out how few manufacturers there were. Most food products we buy come from a small number of factories. Additionally, most brands have co-packers that take their recipe and make it to spec, so your Protein bar wasn't necessarily made in a dedicated "PowerBar" factory, but likely by a company that makes all different kinds of protein bars. I'm not sure the same is true for clothes, but I assume so since the machinery and materials required to make one jacket are the same as those required to make another.

The R&D point is somewhat moot as any good product tech will be protected by patents on the materials or processes. It is possible for somebody to come in and re-create the style, but the fabric, seam welding, quality, etc may not be as good. The net for me is that I'm fine buying generic foods & things where quality doesn't necessarily matter, but for jackets & products where I'm looking for something specific, I'd rather buy a name brand even if it costs me more.
 
#51 ·
I was partially joking about the whole wader thing, there isn't enough margins in that sector to distribute to all of Costco stores. Who knows about Goretex, what if Costco went with the Orvis patent welded seam technology and forgoe the whole stitch, sew and taping of the seams? I have still yet to find the 'perfect' wader and will try the Redington Sonic Seam Zips as my next pair as my Patagonia Guidewaters have about exploded after 3 seasons of use. Fishermen use different tools and clothing is no exception in fact a very integral part of the toolbox. To be comfortable, warm, and provide excellent performance is the whole big picture regardless of who makes the product. I don't know why we have folks on both sides of this thread as we don't typically get arguments when it comes to XYZ rods and reels being better than ABC, whether you get it for $100 or $1000 ultimately, if it serves the purpose, fit, function, and duty, and its of value to the beholder, then its worth it. Just passing along my findings and experiences...