Was wondering the same thing ... Seems like they had a real good thing going. Always inspiring stuff!

 

weird.....

 

Not weird. It just is. Next time I see Ryan or Justin I'll have to ask what's up. They don't seem to have anything good to say about who is left there at the helm.

 

Business is business. And "business" can ruin a lot of good things if you aren't careful. Hobbies, friendships, loves, etc. That's the world of money.

 

It's true! well said!

 

probably sick of big chief staking them out in the yard like huskies and shipping the footage off to the production company Warren Miller's son pimped his dad's lifelong business out to and calling it art. Or having a boss who doesn't fly fish make all the decisions.
BTW, Ryan is safely stashed in a safehouse nearby.
Oh, and HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA happy new year terri!

 

Could it be that living the life of a fishing bum isn't the life after all?

 

A fishing bum is "the life". It is when you add business to fishing that things don't work out for some folks.. Money turns people into assholes and liars.

 

Money turns people into assholes and liars.

That is why I spend it all on fly rods!

 

I have the first video and it showed four trout bums having a good time. I believe that it got to big to fast and the friends just fell apart. If it would of stayed just the four I believe that it would of continued. With a few sponsors along the way. But now it's just too big. Fingers in too many places to make it fun again.

Jim

 

Between the first and second movie there was a fairly hostile takeover by an individual for whom the "business" was more important than the fishing. (I use quotes because that's not how I do business, but I digress.) I know because I lost money in the deal as it went down in a kind of ugly way. Other people in the group are still, unfortunately, fiscally tied to the new owner so things have been pretty quiet. You probably won't hear much from the AEG folks.

 

not for anything but it was the guys, Owens, Davey, Jill, Crump, Weir that made the AEG brand...you wanted to watch "their" adventures. Curious to see what will happen.

 

Curious to see what will happen.

AEG will die. Owen will just have to wear lipstick for someone else. I'll have to ask Ryan see if these guys will drop by and fish. I say they start up BEG. Fuck dude.

 

I also know nothing about these guys - other than I explored, opened & fishing some water that they claimed to be the first to fish. But that's OK - it is about building the story.

What I see happen a lot is that a bunch of passionate guys start a business, they sell some stuff, spend way too much, are poor at managing budgets, need someone to bail them. The guy who comes in with the money is called an butt-hole after a few months because he is watching the bottom line and trying to make it a viable business that can pay salaries.

Their equipment is not cheap, travel is not cheap and marketing is not cheap. Those sponsorships that someone mentioned won't even pay their phone bill.

 

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For the record, Wier wasn't part of AEG.

Which is pretty obvious if you've seen Soulfish.

 

somebody better trademark that quick....

 

Thats too bad about AEG. Well even if its true, they had some great adventures and made a little money on the side. Cheers to that.

As for fishing being the life... I used to think that would be "the life". Fishing seems to leave me quite unfulfilled when all is said and done... You can never catch enough to satisfy. And if you think you can, someday you'll be alone, chasing fish, and come to a startling realization.

 

Thats too bad about AEG. Well even if its true, they had some great adventures and made a little money on the side. Cheers to that.

As for fishing being the life... I used to think that would be "the life". Fishing seems to leave me quite unfulfilled when all is said and done... You can never catch enough to satisfy. And if you think you can, someday you'll be alone, chasing fish, and come to a startling realization.

Jeez Rob, did you just read The River Why or something?

 

No Joe, I tried to read that book though. I have a short attention span. I guess as the steelhead disappear and more people show up, this realization becomes more and more clear to me. I still love fishing. But as for the life as a fishing bum, I guess that's just not for me. But if I could make a good living being a guide, that would be different. There are a few folks who have it made, who can be around fishing and earn enough to live that dream, and that is cool. But a only few can be a family man and a fishing bum. I guess I'm just thinking about what I want in my future.

 

. . . as for the life as a fishing bum, I guess that's just not for me. But if I could make a good living being a guide, that would be different. There are a few folks who have it made, who can be around fishing and earn enough to live that dream, and that is cool. But a only few can be a family man and a fishing bum. I guess I'm just thinking about what I want in my future.

Good thoughts Rob and good for you for voicing them here.

It seems to me that the options for people who try to turn their fishing 'hobby' into their entire life is as predictable as rain in Seattle.

I see at least three choices:

1. Assuming that you aren't independently wealthy, if all you want to do in life is fish, you pretty much have to get used to living the life of a monk, penniless and without other relationships or interests in life. Spending all your time fishing leaves precious little time for making money to spend on food, shelter, fishing gear, booze, and female companionship (although not necessarily in that order!)

If you decide that you really don't want to be 45 and living in your car with wet, smelly waders and think some money would help improve your lifestyle (as well as make you more attractive to women looking for a long-term relationship), you've got a couple more options:

2. You can recognize that fishing is simply a hobby and NOT the reason for your entire existence, get a job, get married, buy a house, have kids, start a 401(k), and fish when you can find time away from your kids, yard work or honeydo list.

3. You can try to turn your passion for fishing into a money-generating vocation by opening a fly shop, working in a fly shop, being a rep for a fishing gear manufacturer, guiding or working for a guide, writing about fishing, or taking pictures or movies of fishing.

The last two are the most difficult as they require some level of persistence, a marketable skill or product, and a sense of how real-life business actually works.

Since being a successful businessman takes a whole lot more effort, skill, patience, and sheer dumb luck than most folks recognize, it's not uncommon for those who fail to return to the first two choices above.

K

 

Does anyone find it strange that they refer to it as a "resignation"?

Doesn't anybody "quit" anymore or have the corporations brain washed us to the core?

 

That blows, I dug their stuff. Even talked to Davey a few times on this site, and was pumped to do my own exploring.

 

OK Guys I got it.....after a lot of thought provoking pondering I have finally come up with this masterpiece of brilliance! WFFEG & Beyond.......Yes that is right I said it, Washington Fly Fishing Exploration Group & Beyond (Washington that is) Now of course I would be the center piece of the show because lets face it, i am the best looking person on this board. But it would be awesome because everyone here would get to fish on the show!!! And we wouldn't always tell the audience where we are fishing just like the board!!! Ohhh man I am so excited sooo who is offering the first million for sponsorship? Chris, I need you to get started on gear sponsors, let me know what you got! Here we go what an adventure!!

 

Hahahah Shit im down. Now we just got to figure out those little minor details. Anyone? :rofl: :beer1:

 

Can I just drink beer and film?