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Wishful Thinking on Klamath Dam Removal

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#1 ·
The removal of the dams would be a starting point for restoration of their habitat. It could also be beneficial for setting a precedence for removal of the dams on the Columbia. If approved I wonder how far the delays would get pushed back like on the Elwha? that was supposed to start early 2008. As far as I know the removal of the Marmot dam on the Sandy did not send torrents of sediment down river. Dam removal has shown positive results as long as streamside restoration is completed in conjunction with the removal.
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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2004127609_klamath16m.html

Klamath groups offer dams plan to restore salmon runs
By JEFF BARNARD

The Associated Press

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Copco No. 1 dam on the Klamath River is one of four that would be removed as part of a deal to restore salmon runs.
GRANTS PASS, Ore. - A deal calling for removal of four hydroelectric dams on the Klamath River to restore struggling salmon runs has been forged among farmers, Indian tribes, fishermen, conservation groups and government agencies battling over scarce water in the region.

The plan announced Tuesday came after two years of closed-door negotiations that overcame long-standing and bitter differences over how to divide Klamath Basin water between a federal irrigation project and fish protected by the Endangered Species Act.

If the plan goes through, it would bring about the biggest dam removal in U.S. history, opening 300 miles of rivers that have not seen salmon in the past century and restoring 60 miles of reservoir to river, according to American Rivers, a conservation group.

Removal of the dams, perhaps as soon as 2015, depends on agreement from the dams' owner, Portland-based utility PacifiCorp, as well as some $400 million in new spending on salmon restoration, primarily from Congress, for a total of $1 billion over 10 years.

The plan contains no provision for paying the estimated $180 million to remove the dams, leaving that to PacifiCorp.

"What we've come up with is a blueprint for how to solve the Klamath crisis," said Craig Tucker, Klamath Campaign coordinator for the Karuk Tribe, which has working for years to restore dwindling salmon catches that were once a keystone of their diet and culture.

PacifiCorp has previously said it would be willing to remove the dams if its ratepayers don't have to pay. But it also has been pursuing a new 30- or 50-year operating license, which would require it to spend about $300 million to build fish ladders. The dams produce enough power for about 70,000 homes.

"It's worth taking a pretty serious look at it," said PacifiCorp spokesman Paul Vogel. "Not being in the room [during negotiations], we don't know whether anyone has seriously represented our customers on our behalf, because our customers have to be protected in this."

Steve Thompson, director of the California-Nevada office of the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Sacramento, Calif., said the Bush administration has supported the settlement process, but the plan must be reviewed by federal agencies.

Thompson added that he knew of no dam-removal project in the country that has restored more habitat or would generate more fish, and characterized the $400 million in new spending as a better investment than past disaster relief to farmers and fishermen.

Luther Horsley, president of the Klamath Water Users Association, which represents the 1,000 farms on the irrigation project, said farmers achieved their goals of predictable irrigation deliveries, affordable power for irrigation pumps, and freedom from future lawsuits over endangered species.

Opposition to the agreement is coming from the Hoopa Tribe, based on the Trinity River, which flows into the Klamath below the dams; some farmers who are not part of the Klamath Reclamation Project; and two conservation groups tossed out of the talks last spring, Oregon Wild and WaterWatch.

Steve Pedery of Oregon Wild and Robert Hunter of WaterWatch were skeptical the deal could actually produce the extra water salmon need to thrive, or that Congress could come up with the money during tight budget times.
 
#2 ·
That is awesome that we are beginning to be proactive before everything collapses.

Go Oregon and California! I love that river. Giving back the river to the 40,000 odd Steelhead, and who knows how many salmon that returned last year is a great thing.
 
#3 ·
just went to another elwha presentation. the USGS is predicting that the sediment will take 20 years to flush through the system. after the presentation, i went up and mentioned that the marmot dam on the sandy was pretty much clean already so where did this estimate come from. he mumbled something..........

me thinks there is much foot shufflin' goin' on. just imagine how embarased so many 'professionals' would be if it all worked really easily!
 
#5 ·
I know this is a little off topic, but if you get a chance read "the press expedition" Published by the mountaineers . It is about the first white explorers to cross the Olympics . Its great to read about there experience with salmon and "sea trout" as they cross the Elwa. Here is to hoping that we can see healthy reproducing stocks back there in our lifetimes! P.S. does anyone know if the s'klallam tribe or any others would have netting rights if it is restored?
 
#6 ·
Kosel80,

Yes. The Elwha Tribe has and already nets the Elwha River. They will continue to do so after the Elwha dams are removed.

Please think for a minute. The state of Oregon hasn't closed the Sandy River to fishing just because Marmot Dam was removed. It's not likely that California will close the Klamath River to fishing if those dams are removed. It seems like you're expecting something different for the Elwha; is that the case?

Sg
 
#7 ·
I believe there was also talk of closing more stretches of the Sandy for more Native breeding habitat. Those nets will remain at the Elwha and other accustomed areas.
The Klamath project has a $580 million dollar budget with no backing as of yet. Pacificorp could possibly absorb the cost with their/more gov't subsidies. We will probably pay in one way or the other as our taxes pay for those subsidies. We can at least hope the talking turns to action.
 
#9 ·
The Condit was supposed to have the resevoir drained by now and dismantled but the Public Utility District wants to keep it in place. I believe TU is working on the agreement that was settled on. It is still scheduled for fall 2008.
 
#10 ·
As far as I know the removal of the Marmot dam on the Sandy did not send torrents of sediment down river. Dam removal has shown positive results as long as streamside restoration is completed in conjunction with the removal.
Couple of points I want to bring up:

#1. It's hard to say how much sediment has been flushed out of the Sandy- the river is perpetually cloudy like the Toutle or Klick (although not as bad as the Toutle). I don't think anyone can really quantify how much sediment has been flushed downstream and where it has deposited until mid-summer.

At the same time, don't we all get the impression that experts gave predications based on the worst-case scenario of sediment loads post-breach? More importantly, there's no model to predict anything like this as the Marmot removal is supposed to be the basis to develop a working model for other dam removals.

#2. The comparison between the Elwha Dams and the Marmot dam is a little unfair. Compared to the Elwha Dam, Marmot is positively tiny. When you take differences in size into account, it just might make it a little more clear why sediment is such a big concern with the removal of both Elwha Dams.

Marmot Dam (47 ft high)
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Glines Canyon (210 ft high)
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Elwha Dam (108 ft high)
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Condit Dam (125 ft high)
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The initial estimates of sediment behind Marmot dam was 1 million cubic yards. source

On the US Bureau of Reclamation website, the estimate of 18 million cubic yards (13 million behind Glines Canyon, 5 million behind Elwha) is stated. An interesting comparison is Condit Dam, which holds an estimated 2.4 million cubic yards of sediment behind it. source

Makes a little more sense why everyone is so concerned about sediment on the Elwha.
 
#14 ·
humm.......are the sandy figures before or after dam removal? keep in mind that water is held back during peak rain times to attempt to prevent downstream flooding. so is it possible the elwha numbers are reflecting this?? the numbers are curious to me simply because the potential for runoff on the elwha appears to be WAY bigger than the sandy. but even if i am wrong, the predam removal dredging that happened on the sandy, and is planned on the elwha, would seem to allow these rivers to flush much more quickly than some pie in the sky projection based on what? just a couple of thoughts that are puzzling to me.
 
#15 ·
I think the gages are located on the lower rivers. The Elwha dams are on the lower Elwha, but Marmot Dam was on the upper Sandy, with a lot of the water supply entering downstream from there. That could make the difference you allude to GT.